[Haskell-cafe] Haskell -> .NET

[Sittampalam, Ganesh]

I think Sigbjorn's binding (http://haskell.forkio.com/dotnet/
<http://haskell.forkio.com/dotnet/>  as linked below) is the most
complete and likely to work, but it's still just a binding not a
compiler backend.

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[mailto:haskell-cafe-bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Podwysocki
Sent: 16 September 2009 15:25
To: Peter Verswyvelen
Cc: haskell-cafe at haskell.org
Subject: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell -> .NET


There was in fact another attempt as well, Salsa:
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Salsa

This showed quite a bit of promise but unfortunately was not more than
just an experiment.

Matt


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Peter Verswyvelen <bugfact at gmail.com>
wrote:


	Yes, but interop only touches the surface of what is possible.
	
	When a Haskell compiler could create IL code, it would be
possible to
	use the generated code inside a sandbox, e.g. to be used on the
web as
	loadable Silverlight code.
	
	Of course the same could be said about other virtual machines,
such as
	Flash or Java, but I don't know about the tail call issue here.
	
	I guess for now F# would be the best option, but it would be
awesome
	if Haskell compilers could have more backends.
	
	I realize this is a very big undertaking, and has been mentioned
	before, but it doesn't hurt to refresh the cache lines once in a
	while, so maybe some bright student picks this up and hacks
together
	something cool during the summer :)
	

	On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Paul Sujkov <psujkov at gmail.com>
wrote:
	> Hi Peter,
	>
	> it seems that this question has been already raised before:
	>
	>
http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2005-January/008244.html
	>
	> and there are some .Net interop implementations on the net (it
is a question
	> how mature they are, however):
	>
	> http://php.cin.ufpe.br/~haskell/haskelldotnet/
<http://php.cin.ufpe.br/%7Ehaskell/haskelldotnet/> 
	> http://haskell.forkio.com/dotnet/
	>
	> 2009/9/16 Peter Verswyvelen <bugfact at gmail.com>
	>>
	>> I heard that compiling Haskell to Java is not obvious since
tail calls
	>> are not supported.
	>>
	>> .NET's intermediate language (IL) does support tail calls,
however it
	>> is currently slower than regular calls, and is not always
supported by
	>> all JITs.
	>>
	>> But given that F# will soon be officially released, I hope
that
	>> eventually tail calls will work as expected, and fast
	>>
	>> See e.g.
	>>
http://blogs.msdn.com/clrcodegeneration/archive/2009/05/11/tail-call-imp
rovements-in-net-framework-4.aspx
	>>
	>> So, might it be worth considering a .NET backend for a
Haskell compiler?
	>>
	>> Peter Verswyvelen
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	>
	>
	> --
	> Regards, Paul Sujkov
	>
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