[Haskell-cafe] killer app sought

John A. De Goes john at n-brain.net
Sun Oct 4 16:28:24 EDT 2009

With few exceptions, no such thing as a killer server-side app.

The Web 3.0 paradigm is simple: all work except sharing and  
persistence of data is done on the client.


John A. De Goes
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On Oct 3, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Mark Wotton wrote:

> Hi,
> I've been writing a little binding from Ruby to Haskell called  
> Hubris (http://github.com/mwotton/Hubris) which I think has some  
> potential both for making Haskell web apps easier to write, and also  
> for bringing the more adventurous Ruby programmers into the Haskell  
> community. Code-wise it's coming along nicely, and once 6.12 is out  
> it'll run without modifications at least on Linux (remains to be  
> seen how long it'll take to get the Mac patches into shape). My real  
> problem is marketing: I need a killer app that shows it's easy  
> either to
> 1. wrap a kickarse Haskell library in a convenient Ruby web app shell
> 2. speed up a poorly performing Ruby web app
> I've been badgering the Ruby guys in Sydney that I know on the  
> second point, but either none of them have performance problems, or  
> none of them want to admit it. The first is entirely possible - if  
> you only attack the subset of problems where your runtime is  
> dominated by the database and network latency, language performance  
> is moot. Conversely, if that's your worldview, the other problems  
> that could be attacked won't ever come to mind (to monstrously abuse  
> the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis).
> So, I'm asking you guys. What are some really nice Haskell libraries  
> or apps that could benefit from being shown off in one of the  
> plethora of slick, mature web frameworks that exist in Ruby? Manuel  
> Chakravarty suggested something with vector operations in order to  
> take advantage of his 'accelerate' library (once it gets a GPU  
> backend, of course), and more generally, something taking advantage  
> of Haskell's support for multicore would be cool. (The standard  
> edition of Ruby is still unicore, I believe.)
> Parenthetically yours,
> Mark
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