[Haskell-cafe] RE: Haskell as a first language?
miguelimo38 at yandex.ru
Tue Jul 14 06:11:35 EDT 2009
I disagree. It was easy enough for me. OK, I do have some Category
Theory background and it certainly helps a lot. Still, I think that for
a beginner (without any experience with C or anything like that) Haskell
would be relatively easy. It doesn't involve (at least at the start) an
ugly notion of assignment.
Michael Vanier wrote:
> Simon Peyton-Jones wrote:
>> Haskell is a great language! Check out haskell.org. I'm ccing the
>> Haskell Cafe which is read by many people better qualified to answer
>> your question than me. (Since I've been working on Haskell for many
>> years, I am not well qualified to say how it seems to a beginner.)
>> | -----Original Message-----
>> | From: Charles Turner [mailto:charlie.h.turner at googlemail.com]
>> | Sent: 11 July 2009 22:52
>> | To: Simon Peyton-Jones
>> | Subject: Haskell as a first language?
>> | | I'll make this short! Do you think Haskell is a good language to
>> | with? I am brand new to programming and have been using Scheme, some of
>> | my peers suggest I should use Haskell. It seems "professional" to me.
>> | Has features that a beginner should not worry about. What would you
>> | suggest. (I'm not worried about bias)
>> | | Thank you very much for your time.
>> | | Charles Turner.
> Haskell is a wonderful language (my favorite language by far) but it is
> pretty difficult for a beginner. In fact, it is pretty difficult for
> anyone to learn in my experience, because it has so many advanced
> concepts that simply don't exist in other languages, and trying to
> absorb them all at once will likely be overwhelming. My path into
> Haskell was roughly C -> Python -> Scheme -> Ocaml -> Haskell, and I
> think that this has a lot going for it (though for a beginner I would
> recommend Python over Haskell, and Scheme is suitable for beginners with
> the right textbooks, e.g. How To Design Programs and/or Structure and
> Interpretation of Computer Programs). If you're willing to work really
> hard, and don't mind that it may take you quite a bit longer before you
> are creating real applications in Haskell than it would in e.g. Python,
> you can start with Haskell (check out the book Real World Haskell:
> http://realworldhaskell.org). But if you get frustrated, feel free to
> shift down the list I gave. Scheme or Ocaml are good languages to learn
> the basics of functional programming, and then you just have to add on
> the Haskell-specific material (of which there is a lot). Haskell is
> kind of like a point in the language space that programmers evolve towards.
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