[Haskell-cafe] Elegant & powerful replacement for CSS

Jeff Heard jefferson.r.heard at gmail.com
Tue Feb 3 16:53:48 EST 2009

Bret's argument, though, only applies to Information Software.
Which...  hey, if you want to go with describing fundamentally
different approaches to GUIs based on the classifications he uses in
his arguments, I think that's a better place to start than trying to
figure out how to make a new denotationally-semantic GUI toolkit that
works for everyone everywhere.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Malcolm Wallace
<malcolm.wallace at cs.york.ac.uk> wrote:
> Jeff Heard wrote:
>> Similarly, I've been wondering what's at the core of a GUI?  It seems
>> in recent years that more people have been moving towards web-based
>> applications, and away from traditional GUIs, so the meaning of them
>> may be changing.  The old question seemed to be Page vs.
>> Control-Board, but that seems like implementation, when the real
>> essence of a GUI is taking in common kinds of user input and
>> displaying output in a sensible way.
> I would go with Bret Victor's argument (http://worrydream.com/MagicInk/)
> that the concept of user interface as primarily _interaction_ is misguided.
>  What GUIs are really about is visual _presentation_ of information.  The
> semantic questions are about what it means graphically to compose
> information sources.  We spend more time reading, viewing, and absorbing
> that information, than rearranging it, or adding to it.
> Interaction changes the sources, or the way they compose, but is (or should
> be) fundamentally an infrequent activity.  The better the visual
> presentation, the less you need to interact with it.
> Regards,
>    Malcolm
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