[Haskell-cafe] Announcement: Beta of Leksah IDE available

[Neil Mitchell]

Hi

Just tried it out, a few notes:

* Very easy install - if only gtk2hs could be installed with cabal it
would have been perfect.

* Select the package you have installed. I didn't have a clue what to
do here. Do you mean where I keep my Haskell programs? Or where GHC
installs them? Can't you figure it out - its a confusing dialog which
looks redundant.

* Turning off "To Candy" was an essential first step for me! I can
perhaps see <- as candy, but replacing $ with diamond is just
confusing.

* I opened a .cabal file, and expected to see the files in the source
in a Window somewhere. I didn't.

* The UI feels a little clunky, this could be the Gtk feel of the app
(which in time I'd get over), or the choice of UI (the left-pane is
quite large). Anything you could do to simplify/streamline the UI
would be great.

All in all looks quite neat. This is definitely going somewhere, and
looks like it will be quite good by the end.

Thanks

Neil



On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:17 PM, jutaro <jnf at arcor.de> wrote:
>
> Thanks Achim,
> maybe you are right with Plugins. In the moment I'm more focused on adding
> additional features. But wish the day, that so many want to add features
> that a plugin system will be essential, we have it.
>
> With the GUI arrangement like splitting etc. leksah is quite flexible, but
> it doesn't support drag and drop, so maybe I'm the only one who knows how to
> use it. Well our capacity is limited, and no high priority on drag and drop
> and such thinks.
>
> Jürgen
>
>
>
> Achim Schneider wrote:
>>
>> J__rgen Nicklisch-Franken <jnf at arcor.de> wrote:
>>
>>> So I please the members of the community to pause for a moment and try
>>> out Leksah with a benevolent attitude.
>>>
>> I did (the previous version, tbh), and couldn't find anything to
>> seriously bicker about... a few problems regarding metadata generation,
>> but that was dealt with as soon as I RTFM'ed. Ah, yes, you shouldn't be
>> able to close the toolbar by pressing on one of its buttons that
>> incidentally looks just like the one to close a file.
>>
>> Completition already rocks, the interface is nicely configurable
>> (although I resorted to editing config and session files instead of
>> using gui commands[1]), project management worked out fine (after I
>> figured out that I had to manually configure leksah to pass --user to
>> cabal), all in all it's an impressive piece of code that radiates later
>> uberness instead of lacking features. Last, but not least, it's _fast_,
>> _waaaaaaaaay_ more zappy than eclipse. As far as basic IDE features are
>> concerned, it's also complete.
>>
>>
>> The one thing that keeps me from switching to it, right now, is the
>> editor not being a vi. While gtksourceview might be, in theory,
>> a usable editor, my muscle memory tells me otherwise. It'd be like
>> switching to autoconf for C development instead of just copying over my
>> beloved OMakefile.
>>
>>
>> Providing refactoring support would make it irresistible... maybe it's
>> time to add a plugin layer, so that things like vacuum or a wrapper
>> around hp2ps can register themselves with leksah, without giving up
>> their identity as stand-alone projects. Plugability is the one feature
>> that made eclipse big, and it won't hurt leksah, either.
>>
>>
>> [1] I utterly failed to figure out how to do stuff[2], seriously.
>>     Eclipse has a really nice drag&drop interface with visual feedback
>>     to rearrange stuff, but I'm not the kind of guy who drops a program
>>     for lacking such bells&whistles.
>> [2] "Stuff" being rearranging divisions such that it's first split
>>     horizontally, the console/type view etc. taking up the bottom part
>>     and the upper part being split vertically into source view/module
>>     browser. I just can't stand wrapped lines on the console. Somehow,
>>     I think it should be the default arrangement.
>>
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