[Haskell-cafe] What are side effects in Haskell?
Hans van Thiel
hthiel.char at zonnet.nl
Sat Dec 27 10:50:08 EST 2008
On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 15:38 +0100, Peter Verswyvelen wrote:
> Using GHCi I found it informative to see that IO indeed is a kind of
> state monad. Here's a GHCi session to show that:
>
>
> Prelude> :m GHC.Prim
> Prelude GHC.Prim> :i IO
> newtype IO a
> = GHC.IOBase.IO (State# RealWorld -> (# State# RealWorld, a #))
> -- Defined in GHC.IOBase
> instance Monad IO -- Defined in GHC.IOBase
> instance Functor IO -- Defined in GHC.IOBase
>
>
> So every "IO a" action takes the RealWorld as input, and outputs
> the RealWorld and some extra value "a" :)
[snip]
Thanks to all who've replied! So, the way I get it, everything in
Haskell is a function, including IO.
Moreover, there exist mathematical foundations for what functions are,
in set theory and, more modern, more expressive, in category theory.
However, some functions in Haskell may have side effects, like printing
something on the screen, updating a database, or producing a random
number. These functions are called 'actions' in Haskell.
Now I'm starting to guess...
There is no mathematical foundation for these side effects (likewise for
persistent data), yet they are needed sometimes.
However, there is a mechanism (sometimes) to compose functions using an
extra type m a, m b, m c etc. instead of types a, b, c... This does not
solve the problem concerning side effects, but it does provide a sort of
'Chinese boxes' to contain them within these type constructors m.
Moreover, in the case of the type designation 'IO ...', you can't get
anything out of the box. So now, at least, you've got a clean interface
between the parts of your program which do not involve side effects, and
the 'actions'.
If I guess correctly, then the general statement 'monads are for
actions' is wrong. It should be something like, 'monadic composition is
a useful method of generalization, which, by the way, allows you to
isolate side effects in a controlled manner'.
Regards,
Hans van Thiel
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