[Haskell-cafe] New slogan for haskell.org

[Andrew Coppin]

Bayley, Alistair wrote:
> Well, wouldn't it be best to define your audience first? At the risk of
> alienating Pythonistas...
>
> The Python home page is very much snake oil (as Albert points out). But
> it appears that they're aiming squarely at the average gormless
> C/C++/VB/Java drone who's heard a bit about some exciting dynamic
> language called "python". And I think they do a pretty good job at
> marketing to this segment.
>
> So the question becomes: do you want to attract/seduce this kind of
> programmer? Let's assume the answer is yes :-)

Um... that assumpion troubles me.

Learning Haskell requires a fairly serious investment of mental energy. 
The language is completely unlike anything else in the mainstream. (I 
don't think Lisp or Erlang count as "mainstream" quite yet.) How many 
coders who spend their days churning out boiler-plate Java or VB are 
going to bother with all that effort? Few, I would think. Besides, 
currently Haskell pretty much sucks at all the things Java and VB are 
good at. (Web development, playing with databases, talking to native 
applications, building complex GUIs, etc. Sure, it can all be done. But 
it's much harder than in Java or VB...)

I think if we want to get anywhere we need to look at targeting people 
whom Haskell actually has something to offer. Now, if I could just 
figure out who those are... :-/

PS. Let's *not* mention Lisp, Erlang, Clean et al, eh? They're all 
already wildly more popular than Haskell, so let's not make it any worse...