[Haskell-cafe] Re: Best idiom for avoiding Defaulting warnings with ghc -Wall -Werror ??

Claus Reinke claus.reinke at talk21.com
Sun Jun 24 08:33:11 EDT 2007


> True enough, in a sense, a dynamically typed language is like a
> statically typed language with only one type (probably several by
> distinguishing function types) and many incomplete pattern matches. 
> So, you can embed a dynamically typed language into a strongly typed
> language without loosing static type checking. 

statically typed: typed at compile time
dynamically typed: typed at runtime

weakly typed: ..
strongly typed: everything is typed and type-checked

there are at least two problems with embedding strongly and 
dynamically typed languages into strongly and statically typed 
languages:

    - it assumes that there is a globally unique static stage, entirely
        separate from a globally unique dynamic stage
    - it assumes that there is a unique, unchanging (closed) world of types

static typing alone is too static to deal with dynamically evolving
types or flexible ideas such as runtime compilation or dynamic linking..

the solution is long-known as type Dynamic (a universal type in which
expressions are paired with type tags): projecting from a Dynamic to
the tag type (using a typecase) involves a 'static' type check prior to
stripping the type info away for a limited 'runtime', embedding
into a Dynamic involves creating a runtime type tag, to prepare for
situations that can't be handled statically.

if you have a strongly and otherwise statically typed language extended
with Dynamic/typecase, you can embed strongly and dynamically typed
languages into it. and you can try to reduce the number of Dynamic and
typecase uses to a minimum, giving you maximal phases of pre-checked
runtime without dynamic type representations or type checks. but there
are situations that need Dynamic/typecase.

if you have a strongly and dynamically typed language, you can embed
strongly and statically typed languages into it. by default, that means
you get more type-checks than necessary and type-errors later than 
you'd wish, but you still get them. eliminating runtime type information 
and runtime type-checks in a strongly and dynamically typed language 
is a question of optimisation, similar to deforestation.

if you have a strongly and statically typed language, there are situations
where you'll get stuck. extending the type system may get you beyond
some of these barriers, but only to the next set of problems. it is 
impressive just how far languages like haskell have managed to take
the idea of strong static typing, and it is worthwhile noting that many
people need nothing more most of the time. it is also worthwhile
recalling that the struggle involved has given us type systems that can
handle many of the problems that were thought to be dynamic in
nature within a static type system (such as generic programming). but
there always remains a small set of essential problems that exceed
what strong static typing can handle on its own.

adding Dynamic/typecase gives you the best of both worlds: the 
expressiveness of strongly and dynamically typed languages and 
the efficiency and early safety (between a typecase and a reembedding 
into Dynamic, there will be no runtime type-checks and no runtime 
type-errors) of strongly and statically typed languages. even better,
for the large number of programs that do not need dynamic types,
there'll be no sign of them - those programs work in the strongly
and statically typed subset of the language.

claus



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