[Haskell-cafe] Re: request for code review
benjamin.franksen at bessy.de
Tue Mar 14 10:39:14 EST 2006
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 14:46, Pete Chown wrote:
> Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > Arrows looks like a replacement for monads. Are you saying
> > I should drop my use of the State monad? If so, why? I like the
> > readability of the do syntax.
> Okay, now it's my turn to ask a question. :-) I've read about arrows,
> and while I think I see what they do, I'm not sure why they are seen
> as so special that they even get new syntax. This question of
> Shannon's is exactly the point I struggle with. I can see that the
> arrow operators might be useful with functions, but are they useful
> for other things too?
Yes, http://www.haskell.org/arrows/biblio.html lists a number of papers
describing non-trivial applications of Arrows, that is, Arrows other
than (->). I found the exposition in
http://www.haskell.org/yale/papers/oxford02/ to be quite readable.
> For example, as monads are one kind of arrow,
> I thought I would make some of the I/O functions into arrows and see
> what happened. The result was pretty much the same as using the
> monad, except slightly less convenient.
You can write monadic code without ever using the syntax sugar, and get
along. However, do-notation is convenient. OTOH, I am told that
programming with Arrows is really quite inconvenient w/o the syntax
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