(Off-topic) Question about categories
daniel_yokomiso at yahoo.com.br
Fri Sep 19 09:01:12 EDT 2003
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From: "Graham Klyne" <gk at ninebynine.org>
To: "Haskell Cafe" <haskell-cafe at haskell.org>
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Subject: (Off-topic) Question about categories
> (I'm asking here because I believe there is some overlap between category
> theory and functional programming cognoscenti...)
> It has been suggested to me that categories may be a useful framework
> useful than set theory) for conceptualizing things for which there is no
> well-defined equality relationship. (The discussion is about resources in
> WWW.) I've done a little digging about category theory, and find some
> relatively approachable material at:
> and nearby.
> But I'm hitting a mental block with this (and other places I've look don't
> add anything I can grok). The definition of a category depends on the
> definition of a morphism, and in particular the existence of an identity
> morphism for every object in a category. The definition of an morphism is
> in terms of equality of compositions of morphisms:
> for f : A -> B we have Id[B]. f = f = f . Id[A]
> My problem is this: how does it make sense to define an equality of
> morphisms without some well-defined concept of equality on the underlying
> objects to which they apply? That is, given object X and an object Y, it
> is possible to examine them and determine whether or not they are the same
> object. And if the underlying objects have such a concept of equality,
> what prevents them from being sets or members of sets? But categories are
> presented as being more general than sets.
> Does anyone see the cause of my non-comprehension here?
> Graham Klyne
> GK at NineByNine.org
There's some additional links about category theory in this LtU
discussion: http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$979. Also there's
this presentation "Category Theory for Beginners"
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