S. Alexander Jacobson
haskell at alexjacobson.com
Sun Apr 25 22:48:45 EDT 2004
Sun and Dell both sell 64-bit boxes. But the core
question is why have two different types at all?
This issue is timely because I just got an error
in code that looks vaguely like:
h<-openFile "foo" AppendMode
pos <- hFileSize h
hPutStr $ show something
content <- readFile "foo"
return $ take pos content
This code produces an error because (madness!):
hFileSize::Handle -> IO Integer
take::forall a. Int -> [a]->[a]
I have to assume conversion between files and
lists is not all that rare even in beginner code.
Note: I don't really care whether everything is
64bit Int or Integer. I just find having to care
about this point in such trivial code ridiculous.
And re sizeFM, I would note that Google has more
than 2^31 pages indexed in memory.
S. Alexander Jacobson mailto:me at alexjacobson.com
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, David Roundy wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 03:20:42PM -0400, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote:
> > QUESTION: "I read in a newspaper that in l981 you
> > said '640K of memory should be enough for
> > anybody.' What did you mean when you said this?"
> > ANSWER: "I've said some stupid things and some
> > wrong things, but not that. No one involved in
> > computers would ever say that a certain amount of
> > memory is enough for all time."
> > http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,1484,00.html
> > Dell's Poweredge servers address up to 32GB of
> > memory today! There are already 5.7 billion
> > people on the planet (>2^31) and 741 million phone
> > lines. In my mind, there is NO QUESTION that 2^31
> > keys is a reasonable size for a FiniteMap or will
> > be in the very very near future.
> On the other hand, since they are still 32 bit computers, any given
> application can still only access 4G of memory. This issue will only be a
> problem on 64 bit platforms which have a 32 bit Int.
> > Moreover, it is not clear that the CPU/memory
> > overhead of returning Integer rather than Int for
> > sizeFM is sufficiently high to be worth bothering
> > the programmer about.
> I'd say that rather than returning an Integer, we'd be better off just
> using a 64 bit Int on 64 platforms.
> David Roundy
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