[GHC] #10074: Implement the 'Improved LLVM Backend' proposal
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#10074: Implement the 'Improved LLVM Backend' proposal
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Reporter: thoughtpolice | Owner: angerman
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: high | Milestone: 8.4.1
Component: Compiler (LLVM) | Version:
Resolution: | Keywords: llvm, codegen
Operating System: Unknown/Multiple | Architecture:
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Type of failure: None/Unknown | Test Case:
Blocked By: | Blocking:
Related Tickets: #11295, #12470 | Differential Rev(s): Phab:D530
Wiki Page: |
wiki:ImprovedLLVMBackend |
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Comment (by angerman):
Replying to [comment:12 bgamari]:
> Replying to [comment:11 angerman]:
> > Ok. Let's do this. I will deviate a bit from the plan in the proposal
though. The rough idea is:
> >
> > - replace opt+llc with clang. This does imply that we loose the
mangler, and probably won't be able to do `-split-obj` at all.
>
> I won't lose much sleep over losing split objects. Frankly, I look
forward to the day when we can drop it entirely. However, it seems like
the the mangler/AVX situation may be a bit trickier.
>
As I've just said on irc, I wonder, assuming we did the obj-splitting at
the cmm level, wouldn't we get split-obj for free in ncg and llvm? Yet, as
[dobenour] mentioned, this would likely prevent inlining in the llvm
backend.
> > - build a release llvm-clang with necessary ghc changes, and call this
`ghc-clang`, until we all ghc relevant patches are upstream in llvm.
> > - provide binary distributions for said `ghc-clang` for at least all
tire1 platforms. Other platform will have to build clang from source.
> >
> As we discussed on IRC, I really would like to avoid coming to rely on
our own LLVM builds if possible. Let's instead try to just get the patches
we need upstream if at all possible. Then we can just piggy-back on the
upstream LLVM binary distributions.
Yes this would be ideal. I'm just not convinced (with our track record),
that we won't find some llvm fix we need just in time so it doesn't make
it into llvm5.
>
> > This should hopefully allow us to drop quite a bit of code from the
llvm backend. It might re-introduce some new bugs. We do have quite a few
hacks here and there to work around bugs in the llvm toolchain, for which
we do not necessarily know if they are still present in the llvm toolchain
we currently support.
> >
> Can you list these? I tried to think of what this refers to but I can't
think of anything off the top of my head.
There are some of comments in the opt and llc phases, referring to bugs
(e.g. macOS doesn't properly do -O3). Now dropping opt and llc and going
just via clang, we do loose some control over the specific optimization
flags we can pass, but in return get a stable unified interface.
>
> > This should allow us to pin the llvm backend to a certain (potentially
customized) clang version. This should be an interim solution only though.
Hopefully we'll have all the necessary changes in llvm upstreamed by the
time llvm5 (~6mo from now) or llvm6 (~12mo from now), will be released.
>
> Right. I see no real reason why it should take longer than six months to
get our changes upstream.
On a final note: actually building a custom (static) clang to distribute
seems rather simple. I've a makefile or ~10 lines that I believe would
also work on linux and bsds; windows would need to be figured out.
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Ticket URL: <http://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/ticket/10074#comment:13>
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