[GHC] #10728: Add e.g. "-N<=4" in addition to the fixed "-N4" and variable "-N" RTS options
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#10728: Add e.g. "-N<=4" in addition to the fixed "-N4" and variable "-N" RTS
options
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Reporter: rrnewton | Owner: simonmar
Type: feature request | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Runtime System | Version: 7.10.2
Resolution: | Keywords:
Operating System: Unknown/Multiple | Architecture:
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Type of failure: None/Unknown | Test Case:
Blocked By: | Blocking:
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Description changed by rrnewton:
Old description:
> As discussed in this issue:
>
> https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/issues/680
>
> stack is one example of a program that optimistically turned on "-N".
> Indeed, it feels like a reasonable and even safe option for a
> multithreaded program. Unfortunately, -N currently guarantees bad
> performance on large machines and especially on large machines with
> hyperthreading. Pretty much one should ship an executable with -N by
> default as of GHC 7.8 and 7.10 IMHO.
>
> Unfortunately, even if stack did get a speedup at, say, 4 or 8 cores, it
> would not be good to ship it with "-N8" either. This would be an
> unreasonable choice on small, one or two core machines.
>
> What we need is a way to say that the program can productively use
> parallelism up to a certain upper bound, but that fewer threads should be
> used if there are not enough cores available. I propose "-N<=8" as a
> potential syntax.
>
> Currently, this behavior can be achieved with
> `setNumCapabilities`/`getNumProcessors`, but I think it's worth a command
> line RTS option.
New description:
As discussed in this issue:
https://github.com/commercialhaskell/stack/issues/680
stack is one example of a program that optimistically turned on "-N".
Indeed, it feels like a reasonable and even safe option for a
multithreaded program. Unfortunately, -N currently guarantees bad
performance on large machines and especially on large machines with
hyperthreading. No one should ship an executable with -N by default as of
GHC 7.8 and 7.10 IMHO.
Unfortunately, even if stack did get a speedup at, say, 4 or 8 cores, it
would not be good to ship it with "-N8" either. This would be an
unreasonable choice on small, one or two core machines.
What we need is a way to say that the program can productively use
parallelism up to a certain upper bound, but that fewer threads should be
used if there are not enough cores available. I propose "-N<=8" as a
potential syntax.
Currently, this behavior can be achieved with
`setNumCapabilities`/`getNumProcessors`, but I think it's worth a command
line RTS option.
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