[ghc-steering-committee] GHC 20xx process

[Spiwack, Arnaud]

Joachim puts his opinion quite eloquently and convincingly :-)

I was initially in favour of one conversation space by proposed extension,
but, at least for the first round this is likely to be overwhelming. At
least, I haven't found or seen, yet, a way to make this manageable. So let
me vote with the majority opinion here.

Let's see how it goes really, if it doesn't work out how we expected this
time around, we can change the process for the next iteration.

/Arnaud

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:11 PM Eric Seidel <eric at seidel.io> wrote:

> Thanks Alejandro and Joachim for pushing this forward!
>
> I also suggested a heavier process along the lines of (2) at some point,
> but after reading the proposal and Joachim's argument here, I feel
> comfortable with (1) as well.
>
> Also, I think @AntC2 made a good point about -fglasgow-exts on the PR [1].
> For the initial round it would be useful to list the extensions enabled by
> -fglasgow-exts as a reference point.
>
> [1]:
> https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/372#issuecomment-716066900
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 06:18, Simon Peyton Jones via
> ghc-steering-committee wrote:
> > |  Is anyone not in favor of this proposal, or has questions, or shall we
> > |  declare consensus and merge it?
> >
> > In my message of 4 Nov, I asked for feedback within "a week or two".
> > Let's set a deadline of the end of this week.
> >
> > All: please respond before then, if you want to.
> >
> > I don't think this is terribly controversial, so I'll take silence as
> assent.
> >
> > All this assuming we adopt Alternative 1.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > |  -----Original Message-----
> > |  From: ghc-steering-committee <
> ghc-steering-committee-bounces at haskell.org> On
> > |  Behalf Of Joachim Breitner
> > |  Sent: 09 November 2020 16:28
> > |  To: ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org
> > |  Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] GHC 20xx process
> > |
> > |  Hi,
> > |
> > |  Am Freitag, den 06.11.2020, 19:55 +0000 schrieb Richard Eisenberg:
> > |  > This is an effective argument; you've changed my mind.
> > |  >
> > |  > I'm now in favor of Joachim's simpler process.
> > |
> > |  thanks, also for making me get more clarity on this as well.
> > |
> > |  Is anyone still preferring Alternative 2, or should we take it off the
> > |  table?
> > |
> > |  Is anyone not in favor of this proposal, or has questions, or shall we
> > |  declare consensus and merge it?
> > |
> > |
> > |  It seems that now is a good time to then actually do the first
> iteration of
> > |  the process – the State of Haskell survey data, once out, will be
> fresh, and
> > |  we'd be well in time for inclusion in the Spring release of GHC,
> likely 9.1
> > |  (unless the 9.0 delay shifts things around… oh well, let’s just make
> sure we
> > |  have GHC2021 defined before or near the start of 2021, not late in
> that year
> > |  :-))
> > |
> > |  Cheers,
> > |  Joachim
> > |
> > |  --
> > |  Joachim Breitner
> > |    mail at joachim-breitner.de
> > |
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