[ghc-steering-committee] #216: Qualified Do, recommendation: accept
Richard Eisenberg
rae at richarde.dev
Thu Mar 12 13:42:17 UTC 2020
Sorry to say that I do not like this proposal in its current form, as I elaborate on GitHub:
https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/216#issuecomment-598191928 <https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/216#issuecomment-598191928>
Richard
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Vitaly Bragilevsky <bravit111 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I support this proposal in the current form. I am especially happy
> with the idea that the 'M.do' qualifier does not affect the 'return'
> function. It's just fine to affect implicit constructions exclusively.
>
> Vitaly
>
> ср, 11 мар. 2020 г. в 21:37, Joachim Breitner <mail at joachim-breitner.de>:
>>
>> Dear Committe,
>>
>> Proposal:
>> https://github.com/tweag/ghc-proposals/blob/local-do/proposals/0000-local-do.rst
>>
>> Discussion: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/216
>>
>>
>> Summary:
>>
>> last June we looked at a “local do” proposal that would be a more
>> targetted variant of RebindableSyntax, just for “do”. After an initial
>> acceptance recommendation from me we had some good discussion, and
>> eventually sent it back for revision. One problem, among many, was that
>> the story around type inference wasn’t as good as with normal “do”.
>>
>> All attempts to give meaning to “do” via a local value (e.g. a record,
>> or type classes etc.) were unsatisfying in one way or another. (Often
>> something about mumble impredicative types mumble.)
>>
>> Anyways, Facundo Domínguez joined the author team and the discussion
>> steered towards a less ambitious, but simpler and cleaner proposal:
>> Qualified do. The idea is simply to treat a module qualifier on the do
>> keyword as a qualified on all the implicit :
>>
>> M.do { x <- u; stmts } = (M.>>=) u (\x -> M.do { stmts })
>>
>> and similar for the other monad desugaring rules.
>>
>>
>> Recommendation:
>>
>> This seems simple, convenient and easy to understand, so I recommend
>> accepting the proposal.
>>
>>
>> Comment:
>>
>> There was some discussion if
>>
>> M.do { return x } = M.return x
>>
>> but it seems that changing the meaning of more than `do` it self may be
>> more confusing than helpful, so the proposal as it stands does _not_
>> propose it (see Alternatives). I wish we had a better story here, and
>> welcome ideas from the committee.
>>
>>
>> WDYAT?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Joachim
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joachim Breitner
>> mail at joachim-breitner.de
>> http://www.joachim-breitner.de/
>>
>>
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