[ghc-steering-committee] #380 GHC2021: How to proceed?

Simon Peyton Jones simonpj at microsoft.com
Tue Dec 22 10:05:49 UTC 2020


|  It's accurate, but checking was was quite tedious, hard to automate,
|  and hence. I guess I can keep it up to date as new votes come in, so
|  that might be fine.

Thanks.  The crucial thing is that it's grouped in a logical way, so it's possible to address the question "does this make a coherent language design".

Simon

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|  From: ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee-
|  bounces at haskell.org> On Behalf Of Joachim Breitner
|  Sent: 21 December 2020 20:26
|  To: ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org
|  Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] #380 GHC2021: How to proceed?
|  
|  Hi,
|  
|  > Then we should allow a fortnight, say to 18 Jan (my birthday).
|  
|  if Simon says that his birthday wish from us is a well-thought
|  through, conclusively discussed, shiny and nice GHC2021, then of
|  course we will make it so :-)
|  
|  Am Montag, den 21.12.2020, 19:50 +0000 schrieb Simon Peyton Jones via
|  ghc-steering-committee:
|  > As you know, I have found it extremely difficult to make sense of a
|  table with more than 100 rows.  I think we need a global summary and I
|  have prepared one here:
|  >
|  https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs
|  >
|  .google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1BMJtUQGk1HKOFgLnczybAwd1HgqbNpZA7elM4VnA
|  >
|  Na8%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%
|  >
|  7C87b4f0b75a7949c5d3e108d8a5eeb045%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%
|  >
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|  >
|  DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sXj
|  > Sq8Fwla6AysnF9oW5QObfyRGaNcsSVx%2Bh5046Cqg%3D&reserved=0
|  >
|  > Is it accurate?  I have not cross-checked against the vote table in
|  the last week or two. You all have edit permission for this document.
|  
|  It's accurate, but checking was was quite tedious, hard to automate,
|  and hence. I guess I can keep it up to date as new votes come in, so
|  that might be fine.
|  
|  Or I scrape the categorization of extensions from the docs (
|  https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fghc.
|  gitlab.haskell.org%2Fghc%2Fdoc%2Fusers_guide%2Fexts.html&data=04%7
|  C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7C87b4f0b75a7949c5d3e108d8a5eeb045%7C72f
|  988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637441791891413801%7CUnknown%7
|  CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXV
|  CI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=79QzkT3UBoasQjYNBBu9aBy1Q4e1yVPoLOS08cZgnYg
|  %3D&reserved=0 nicely groups them by topic), and generate this
|  view automatically from the data, as part of
|  https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
|  ub.com%2Fghc-proposals%2Fghc-
|  proposals%2Fblob%2Fghc2021%2Fproposals%2F0000-
|  ghc2021.rst%23data&data=04%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7C87b4f0
|  b75a7949c5d3e108d8a5eeb045%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%
|  7C637441791891413801%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQI
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|  
|  Would that help?
|  
|  > * Everyone: check that the union of "in" and "barely in" makes sense
|  as a
|  >   coherent language design
|  > * Everyone: make the case for any changes. But only for borderline
|  cases. No
|  >   point in arguing for something that is nowhere near the
|  borderline, unless
|  >   you really think everyone has misunderstood
|  >
|  > I think the period from now to 4 Jan doesn't count. Then we should
|  > allow a fortnight, say to 18 Jan (my birthday).
|  >
|  > Is that acceptable?
|  
|  Very much so, I think, thanks.
|  
|  Also remember to go through your maybes. (If both SPJ and Arnaud turn
|  their "maybe" about UnicodeSyntax to yes it makes it in ;-))
|  
|  
|  Cheers,
|  Joachim
|  
|  --
|  Joachim Breitner
|    mail at joachim-breitner.de
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