[ghc-steering-committee] #195 recommendation: accept
Richard Eisenberg
rae at richarde.dev
Fri Nov 15 17:26:17 UTC 2019
I wholeheartedly agree with Simon -- the proposal is not quite ready to accept, though we can signal to the author that we plan on accepting it once it's complete.
Richard
> On Nov 15, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Simon Peyton Jones via ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org> wrote:
>
> | If there are no more issue to clear up, I'll mark this as accepted
> | next week Monday. Please speak up, if you think otherwise.
>
> I'm speaking up! Before accepting a proposal, we should be content that the proposal itself stands by itself. Our protocol says that we'll push back (promptly) to "Please revise", in the constructive spirit of "we are going to accept this but want you to make the proposal clear first".
>
> This is not a big deal -- we are going to accept it! But I don’t want accept until the proposal is done.
>
> Simon
>
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee-bounces at haskell.org>
> | On Behalf Of Iavor Diatchki
> | Sent: 15 November 2019 10:20
> | To: Eric Seidel <eric at seidel.io>
> | Cc: ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org>
> | Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] #195 recommendation: accept
> |
> | If there are no more issue to clear up, I'll mark this as accepted
> | next week Monday. Please speak up, if you think otherwise.
> |
> | On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 7:22 PM Eric Seidel <eric at seidel.io> wrote:
> | >
> | > I'm also in Arnaud's boat. I support improving the usability of Typed
> | TH, and the Code newtype looks like a step in that direction. So, assuming
> | we can satisfy Simon and Richard's questions, I support acceptance.
> | >
> | > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, at 03:46, Spiwack, Arnaud wrote:
> | > > I understand that some details are lacking. But I don't think,
> | whatever
> | > > the details are, that they will affect my opinion of the proposal:
> | they
> | > > are over my knowledge of Template Haskell.
> | > >
> | > > This proposal seems well motivated. So, I'll count as an accept vote,
> | > > when the details are eventually sorted out.
> | > >
> | > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:45 PM Richard Eisenberg <rae at richarde.dev>
> | wrote:
> | > > > I'm in the same camp as Simon here -- I'm still a little murky on
> | how `Code` will interact with `Q`.
> | > > >
> | > > > Richard
> | > > >
> | > > > > On Nov 5, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Simon Peyton Jones via ghc-steering-
> | committee <ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org> wrote:
> | > > > >
> | > > > > I'm basically supportive, but would like to see answers to my
> | recent questions incorporated in the proposal before it is accepted.
> | > > > >
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> | > > > > Simon
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > | -----Original Message-----
> | > > > > | From: ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee-
> | bounces at haskell.org>
> | > > > > | On Behalf Of Iavor Diatchki
> | > > > > | Sent: 05 November 2019 16:44
> | > > > > | To: ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org>
> | > > > > | Subject: [ghc-steering-committee] #195 recommendation: accept
> | > > > > |
> | > > > > | Hello everyone,
> | > > > > |
> | > > > > | I am the shepherd for pull request #195 to wrap `Q (TExtp a)`
> | into a
> | > > > > | newtype synonym `Code a`. The main change to the language is
> | that the
> | > > > > | special Template Haskell notation for typed splices will will
> | work
> | > > > > | with `Code a` rather than `Q (TExtp a)`.
> | > > > > |
> | > > > > | The benefit of having the newtype is that it makes it possible
> | to
> | > > > > | abstract over `Code`. For example, you can work with typed name
> | > > > > | environments like `MapF Name Code`, where `MapF` is an
> | "indexed"
> | > > > > | variant of `Map` which maps `Name a` to `Code a` (`MapF` is
> | defined in
> | > > > > | package `parameterized-utils` on hackage).
> | > > > > |
> | > > > > | Making typed TH work with `Code` directly avoids the need to
> | > > > > | constantly switch between `Code` and `Q (TExp a)` and with the
> | new
> | > > > > | system users of typed TH are not likely to deal with the latter
> | much
> | > > > > | at all.
> | > > > > |
> | > > > > | For these reasons I recommend that we accept this proposal.
> | Please
> | > > > > | let me know if you think otherwise.
> | > > > > |
> | > > > > | -Iavor
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