[ghc-steering-committee] Wrapping up Constructor Synonyms and Pattern Synonym Signatures

Simon Peyton Jones simonpj at microsoft.com
Fri Apr 28 07:46:40 UTC 2017


|  If there are no objections I will comment upon and close #41, comment
|  on #42, and then merge #42.

Yes -- but I'd like to see the author revise the text of #42 to incorporate feedback, so what we merge is the actual final proposal.

Simon

|  -----Original Message-----
|  From: ghc-steering-committee [mailto:ghc-steering-committee-
|  bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Allen
|  Sent: 28 April 2017 02:43
|  To: Simon Marlow <marlowsd at gmail.com>
|  Cc: ghc-steering-committee at haskell.org
|  Subject: Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Wrapping up Constructor Synonyms
|  and Pattern Synonym Signatures
|  
|  Your suggestions were most helpful anyone. Joachim, the wording you
|  chose especially helped, thank you!
|  
|  Here are my proposed replies to #41 and #42:
|  
|  #41:
|  
|  This proposal is rejected as it abandons the syntactic distinction
|  between constructors and the benefits described don't justify the
|  loss.
|  
|  
|  #42: This proposal is being accepted with some provisions.
|  
|  - The modifications should not change the behavior of existing pattern
|  synonyms that have not specified a type signature.
|  
|  - The proposal doesn't address the relationship between signatures of
|  the constructor and the signature of the pattern. The options
|  discussed in order of most conservative to least were:
|    * May not differ in anything but the constraints.
|    * Must have the same return type.
|    * Must have the same outer type constructor in their return type.
|    * No relation.
|  
|  The committee chose the first, most restricted, variant to follow the
|  principle of least surprise. If there's a strong belief that the
|  looser relationships may be useful, those can be described in a new
|  proposal.
|  
|  
|  If there are no objections I will comment upon and close #41, comment
|  on #42, and then merge #42.
|  
|  Thank you again everyone,
|  Chris
|  
|  
|  
|  
|  
|  On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:06 AM, Simon Marlow <marlowsd at gmail.com>
|  wrote:
|  > Agree, I'm in favour of the conservative version of #42 and against
|  #41.
|  >
|  > But #42 also has a proposal for inference of the constructor type in
|  > the absence of a type signature, and gives several options there.  I
|  > presume we want to be conservative and say that we're not making any
|  > changes to the behaviour in the absence of a type signature, right?
|  >
|  > Cheers
|  > Simon
|  >
|  > On 9 April 2017 at 21:16, Christopher Allen <cma at bitemyapp.com>
|  wrote:
|  >>
|  >> Thank you to those of you that replied. I'd like to preserve the
|  >> syntactic distinction that construction synonyms eliminates. Your
|  >> statements have shifted me to a reject on
|  >>
|  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
|  >> ub.com%2Fghc-proposals%2Fghc-
|  proposals%2Fpull%2F41&data=02%7C01%7Csim
|  >>
|  onpj%40microsoft.com%7C643cc13fb2564eee29f308d48dd7f244%7C72f988bf86f
|  >>
|  141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636289406043033050&sdata=m090Oh7u4i3x
|  >> SXfTgj6uHqYnF4%2FnwBihOjhLfJy44dQ%3D&reserved=0
|  >>
|  >> If no one has objections, I'd like to move to a reject as I think
|  >> enough time has elapsed that it's unlikely to get any defenders.
|  >> Speak up if you feel something was missed.
|  >>
|  >>
|  >> Regarding
|  >>
|  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
|  >> ub.com%2Fghc-proposals%2Fghc-
|  proposals%2Fpull%2F42&data=02%7C01%7Csim
|  >>
|  onpj%40microsoft.com%7C643cc13fb2564eee29f308d48dd7f244%7C72f988bf86f
|  >>
|  141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636289406043033050&sdata=rT%2FzUg328i
|  >> PKjA8dBKhZdVZObo1SQSJWlpmZtHTxm3E%3D&reserved=0
|  >>
|  >> Summarizing peoples' replies so far:
|  >>
|  >> Joachim: In favor, as long as :i does the right thing. Seems
|  >> under-specified, suggested the following possible relationships
|  >> between signature of the pattern and the constructor:
|  >>
|  >> * May not differ in anything but the constraints.
|  >> * Must have the same return type.
|  >> * Must have the same outer type constructor in their return type.
|  >> * No relation.
|  >>
|  >> Roman: In favor of this proposal under the "May not differ in
|  >> anything but the constraints" policy and against it under any of
|  the
|  >> other three.
|  >>
|  >> Simon PJ: In favor of #42 alone, but no holes. Agrees with Roman
|  that
|  >> that type of the constructor should be the same as that of the
|  >> pattern.
|  >>
|  >> Simon Marlow: I believe the statement was in favor of #42 contra
|  #41,
|  >> but I didn't get a sense of how strongly or how Simon felt about
|  the
|  >> particulars.
|  >>
|  >>
|  >> I agree with and want to highlight Roman's point regarding,
|  >>
|  >> >A looser relationship between the constructor function and the
|  >> >pattern  makes code significantly harder to read and the proposal
|  >> >doesn't include any  justification for such a looser relationship
|  so
|  >> >I would go with the  strongest requirement possible.
|  >>
|  >>
|  >> It seems to me like the respondents so far are in favor of #42, but
|  >> want the strongest variant. I'd like to move to accept #42 with the
|  >> "May not differ in anything but the constraints" variant. Any
|  >> objections?
|  >>
|  >>
|  >> Thank you Joachim for the status update last week.
|  >>
|  >> Thanks you for your time everyone,
|  >> Chris Allen
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