Proposal: Don't read environment files by default

Brandon Allbery allbery.b at gmail.com
Fri Mar 29 16:52:32 UTC 2019


Nix instead of system, but roughly yes.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 5:46 AM Oleg Grenrus <oleg.grenrus at iki.fi> wrote:

> To clarify: You mean different installations of same-version GHC? E.g.
> /opt/ghc/8.4.4/bin/ghc (HVR's) and /usr/bin/ghc (System default) which
> both happen to be 8.4.4 (so some other version)?
>
> - Oleg
>
> On 29.3.2019 5.44, Brandon Allbery wrote:
> > FWIW I've run into this one myself, and use (clones, if necessary, of)
> > v1 sandboxes for it currently.
> >
> > I've also been both bitten by, and helped by, environment files. The
> > former is somewhat nastier, especially if you have multiple versions
> > of ghc around and a given environment file was generated by a
> > different ghc.
> >
> > I also have a somewhat weird setup, because of how I ended up cobbling
> > this machine together: the global and user package dbs for my default
> > ghc are more or less "owned" by xmonad development, anything else is
> > in v2, a sandbox, or otherwise a different ghc version. Including nix,
> > also operating as a sandbox (that is, I use an alias to set up nix
> > within specific shells, rather than unconditionally loading its
> > config). Plus that "default ghc" is via wrappers around hvr's ghc
> > repos for Ubuntu. Which means I have lots of different ghcs around,
> > depending on which shell window I'm in. Not that I'm expecting anyone
> > to directly support this mess, but environment files seem to play
> > especially badly with multiple ghc versions with different packages
> > installed.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:33 PM <amindfv at gmail.com
> > <mailto:amindfv at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     > El 28 mar 2019, a las 3:26 PM, Richard Eisenberg
> >     <rae at richarde.dev> escribió:
> >     >
> >
> >     [...]
> >
> >     > 2. I get pilloried every time I say it, but I vastly prefer
> >     global package databases to local ones.
> >
> >     I'll second this in one specific context. v2-build has been
> >     amazing at work and in general for project-based development, but
> >     – and maybe simply because I don't know the right incantations – a
> >     step backwards for impromptu coding where I don't want to set up a
> >     whole project to start messing with an idea.
> >
> >     I've actually fallen back to v1-install for this specific usecase:
> >     I have a set of ~15 packages, all installed from local git repos,
> >     some of which depend on others, that I *always* want when I'm in
> >     GHCi. It's basically my base. I may simply be doing it wrong but
> >     I've been unable to use the "global ghc.env file" trick successfully.
> >
> >     Tom
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