GHC Threads affinity

Takenobu Tani takenobu.hs at gmail.com
Tue Sep 12 12:15:05 UTC 2017


Hi,

Here is a simple diagram of forkIO, forkOn and forkOS:


https://takenobu-hs.github.io/downloads/haskell_ghc_illustrated.pdf#page=69

Regards,
Takenobu


2017-09-11 21:54 GMT+09:00 Michael Baikov <manpacket at gmail.com>:

>
> >> I'm developing a program that contains several kinds of threads - those
> that do little work and sensitive to latency and those that can spend more
> CPU time and less latency sensitive. I looked into several cases of
> increased latency in those sensitive threads (using GHC eventlog) and in
> all cases sensitive threads were waiting for non-sensitive threads to
> finish working. I was able to reduce worst case latency by factor of 10 by
> pinning all the threads in the program to specific capability but manually
> distributing threads (60+ of them) between capabilities (several different
> machines with different numbers of cores available) seems very fragile.
> World stopping GC is still a problem but at least in my case is much less
> frequently so.
> >
> > If you have a fixed set of threads you might just want to use
> -N<threads> -qn<cores>, and then pin every thread to a different
> capability.  This gives you 1:1 scheduling at the GHC level, delegating the
> scheduling job to the OS.  You will also want to use nursery chunks with
> something like -n2m, so you don't waste too much nursery space on the idle
> capabilities.
> >
> > Even if your set of threads isn't fixed you might be able to use a
> hybrid scheme with -N<large> -qn<cores> and pin the high-priority threads
> on their own capability, while putting all the low-priority threads on a
> single capability, or a few separate ones.
>
> There's about 80 threads right now and some of them are very short lived.
> Most of them are low priority and require lots of CPU which means having to
> manually distribute them over several capabilities - this process I'd like
> to avoid.
>
> >> It would be nice to be able to allow GHC runtime to migrate a thread
> between a subset of capabilities using interface similar to this one:
> >>
> >> -- creates a thread that is allowed to migrate between capabilities
> according to following rule: ghc is allowed to run this thread on Nth
> capability if Nth `mod` size_of_word bit in mask is set.
> >> forkOn' :: Int -> IO () -> IO ThreadId
> >> forkOn' mask act = undefined
> >>
> >> This should allow to define up to 64 (32) distinct groups and allow
> user to break down their threads into bigger number of potentially
> intersecting groups by specifying things like capability 0 does latency
> sensitive things, caps 1..5 - less  sensitive things, caps 6-7 bulk things.
> >
> >
> > We could do this, but it would add some complexity to the scheduler and
> load balancer (which has already been quite hard to get right, I fixed a
> handful of bugs there recently). I'd be happy review a patch if you want to
> try it though.
>
>
> I guess I'll start by studying the scheduler and load balancer in more
> details. Thank you for your input Simon!
>
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