>>>>> "RE" == Richard Eisenberg <rae at cs.brynmawr.edu> writes: RE> Or, you could tackle #13737 and get rid of the knot altogether! :) That would be helpful. :) -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2