ghci and unfoldings?

Edward Z. Yang ezyang at mit.edu
Mon Jan 18 06:37:07 UTC 2016


Does passing -fobject-code solve your problem?

Edward

Excerpts from Conal Elliott's message of 2016-01-17 22:18:49 -0800:
> Hi Brandon. Thanks for the reply. I’m not sure that it addresses what I was
> trying to ask. GHCi *does* invoke plugins and even reloads those plugins
> dynamically when their source code changes. So in this sense ghci does
> enable optimization, even if it doesn’t perform much optimization on its
> own. And of course plugins and unfolding are not just about optimization.
> 
> I’m not looking for ghci to do optimization, but rather to enable me to
> more easily develop my GHC plugins. It’s *almost* there already. I just
> need access to unfoldings from other modules for my plugin’s use.
> 
> For context, I’m rebuilding my Haskell-to-hardware compiler
> <https://github.com/conal/talk-2015-haskell-to-hardware>, which relies on
> giving a non-standard but principled interpretation of Haskell programs via
> a conversion through the language of cartesian closed categories (CCCs).
> The first back-end is hardware generation (e.g., via Verilog), and I have
> plans for several other CCC-based interpretations.
> 
> In addition to facilitating my plugin development, hosting in ghci will
> make it much more pleasant for others to *use* the plugin during
> exploratory programming, just as with ghci use in general. With access to
> unfoldings, users will be able to generate circuit diagrams and Verilog
> like those in my compiler talk immediately and directly from within ghci. I
> also intend to make a GPU back-end for fast interactive graphics etc, which
> would be much more fun in ghci than with batch compilation.
> I hope this explanation clarifies my goals and motivation. I hope there’s a
> way to access unfoldings from ghci currently or with a small amount of
> effort.
> 
> Regards, - Conal
> 
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Conal Elliott <conal at conal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm developing a GHC plugin (using HERMIT), and I'd like to use ghci to
> >> speed up development. I'm able to do so, except that my plugin critically
> >> needs access to unfoldings, which appear to be unavailable in ghci. A
> >> little experimenting with ghc shows me that "-O" is the key, but "-O" is
> >> incompatible with "--interactive" (as in ghci). Is there any way to
> >> persuade ghci to make unfoldings available?
> >
> >
> > I think unfoldings are only done as part of optimization, and the bytecode
> > backend doesn't support optimization at all.
> >
> > --
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