Request to reopen the issue of 7.8 on El Capitan

[Carter Schonwald]

I'll see if I can bake a build from source myself and share it.

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015, Austin Seipp <austin at well-typed.com> wrote:

> I wasn't aware it completely broke on El Capitan, but I think that's a
> pretty extreme case (where a completely usable release simply breaks
> because a hugely popular OS changes) that would warrant a 7.8.5
> release, to be honest. Presumably, this would really be the only
> change, so mostly OS X users would be affected by its availability.
>
> In general people like to use the last 3 GHC releases anyway, and we
> haven't even *released* 8.0 yet. And at that point, 7.8.x will be the
> last 'in the chain' - so I can assume people would _still_ want 7.8 on
> OS X presumably, even more than a year from today until 8.2!
>
> At that point (8.2-ish era) if Apple keeps breaking things, we may not
> do another release, but in this case I think the timescale for
> user/library support is probably worth it. Otherwise OS X users are
> going to have to fix it themselves, and it might be ugly (propagating
> random fixes around the internet isn't going to work well, and we'll
> just keep getting bug reports about this because of that - we've
> already done this dance with OS X.)
>
> I'll note this down and think about it more this week, since we'd like
> to get 7.10.3 out soon as well...
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Adam Foltzer <acfoltzer at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > 7.8.4 is was released only ten months ago; it surprises me that we'd
> > consider it acceptable to have such a recent release fail to work on new
> > machines when the fix is so small as to not even require a patch to the
> > source tree. In particular, I remember hearing proponents of 7.10's
> changes
> > reassure detractors that if they choose, they can continue to use 7.8.4,
> > which is no longer an option.
> >
> > I'd ask that we (1) reconsider the decision to stop 7.8 releases, and
> (2) if
> > we stand by the decision, document the mitigations for users who would
> like
> > to build their own working version of the compiler. I just finished a
> build
> > from a source dist with `unix-2.7.1.0` and it still triggers the El
> Capitan
> > error, so I suspect it's not as simple as just dropping the new package
> into
> > `/libraries/unix/`.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Carter Schonwald
> > <carter.schonwald at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are no plans to do a new 7.8 release at this Time.  Even doing a
> >> point release for 7.10.3 is still speculative.
> >>
> >> We should reflect the capitan issue in the installation documentation.
> >> And or remark that only 7.10 or newer is supported on El Capitan.
> >>
> >> If a user needs a 7.8 build that works on capitan, they will need to
> build
> >> a source dist with an updated UNIX package.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015, Adam Foltzer <acfoltzer at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> The issue was brought up on this list [1] that the released versions of
> >>> GHC 7.8 do not work on El Capitan due to an older `unix` package. In a
> >>> subsequent GHC weekly news [2], it was announced that since El Capitan
> >>> wasn't yet released, it wasn't worthwhile to put more developer time
> into
> >>> 7.8.
> >>>
> >>> Now that El Capitan is out, and the existing 7.8 binaries continue to
> not
> >>> work, I'd like to reopen this issue and request a point release with an
> >>> updated `unix` package.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Adam Foltzer
> >>> Research Engineer
> >>> Galois, Inc.
> >>>
> >>> [1]: https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/ghc-devs/2015-July/009403.html
> >>> [2]:
> >>>
> https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/blog/weekly20150721#MacOSXElCapitansupport
> >
> >
> >
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>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Austin Seipp, Haskell Consultant
> Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com/
>
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