"Excuse me, I think this i my stop..." - Resigning from the Platform
gregmainland at gmail.com
Tue Oct 13 16:39:45 UTC 2015
I know how frustrating and demotivating it can be to be on the dissenting
side of of a change like this. Thanks for all of your contributions to the
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015, 06:36 Takenobu Tani <takenobu.hs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mark,
> Thank you for your efforts.
> You've gave us a lot of opportunity to meet haskell.
> There are many people on the back side of the firewall.
> They can't access over the firewall.
> HP, all-in-one and web downloadable package, is very useful for them.
> Thanks to you, we were able to enjoy the haskell.
> Thank you very much,
> 2015-10-13 12:08 GMT+09:00 Mark Lentczner <mark.lentczner at gmail.com>:
>> I think this is the right time for me to exit:
>> The truth is, I still can't bring myself to use a version of Haskell post
>> the Foldable-Traversable-aPocalypse, let alone some future Haskell after
>> the changes now in the works. My personal machines are all still 7.8. My
>> personal projects are all pre-FTP. The Haskell I love to code in, the
>> Haskell I'm passionate about, the Haskell I've advocated for real world
>> use, and the Haskell I like to teach, is 7.8, pre-FTP.
>> It's not that I'm dead set against change and evolution in a language, or
>> even breaking changes. But FTP and beyond are changes that have lost the
>> balance that Haskell had between abstraction and clarity, between elaborate
>> and practical engineering. I don't see any restraint going forward, so I'm
>> getting off the train.
>> This puts me in an odd position with respect to Haskell Platform: I find
>> myself building the Platform for a version of Haskell that I don't use.
>> This isn't healthy for either the Platform or me. Hence, I'm resigning as
>> release manager.
>> I am sad because I believed that Haskell's path to much wider adoption
>> was within reach. Now, especially with the ramping up of the Haskell Prime
>> committee, which seems preordained to codify FTP and beyond into standard,
>> we are approaching our Algol 68 moment: Building a major language revision
>> with less opportunity than it's predecessor.
>> I'll still see you 'round at meet-ups and conferences. I'll just be
>> coding with an older accent.
>> - Mark "mzero" Lentczner
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