release timing

Tue May 5 11:16:05 UTC 2015

Just to be clear, the issue is this

* For whom is 7.10.2 mission-critical?
* And with what patches? (give specific tickets)
* And by what date?

The only reason to make a release is because someone is stalled, or seriously inconvenienced, unit it happens.  Otherwise we should wait.  So: "+1" doesn't give enough information.  Of course, the sooner the better, the more bugs fixed the better.

You might say "I'm waiting for API Annotations; but I'm under no time pressure".  Or "My whole business is stalled pending a fix to Trac #xxx" or whatever.

The whole API annotations thing is a special case.  We usually make NO api changes in a patch-level release.  But the API annotations stuff is brand new, and apparently most of the fixes depend on API changes.  So I think we are going to let them sneak in.  Do we have a comprehensive list, in Trac tickets of all the patches that are sought?

The canonical list is https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Status/GHC-7.10.2
Only patches that are listed as "merge" or "patch" are even being considered.  If you have something you care about that is not in that state, can you cause it to be in that state?

Thanks

Simon

|  -----Original Message-----
|  From: ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces at haskell.org] On Behalf Of
|  Matthew Pickering
|  Sent: 05 May 2015 12:09
|  To: Alan & Kim Zimmerman
|  Cc: ghc-devs at haskell.org
|  Subject: Re: release timing
|  
|  +1 for the API Annotations patches.
|  
|  On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Alan & Kim Zimmerman
|  <alan.zimm at gmail.com> wrote:
|  > I'd love to see the various queued API Annotations diffs go in.
|  >
|  > Alan
|  >
|  > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Roman Cheplyaka <roma at ro-che.info>
|  wrote:
|  >>
|  >> I'd love to see GHC 7.10.2 once this haddock issue is fixed:
|  >> https://github.com/haskell/haddock/issues/385
|  >>
|  >> On 05/05/15 13:08, Simon Peyton Jones wrote:
|  >> > This time 'round I'd like to do a HP 7.10.2 concurrent with GHC
|  7.10.2!
|  >> > Crazy, I know, and who knows if we can pull it off....
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > Good plan!
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > In Austin’s last GHC Weekly News we asked if anyone had any
|  >> > constraints on the release of GHC 7.10.2.  So far as I know, no
|  one
|  >> > replied.  *So the current status is that we’ll hold it until
|  >> > someone says “getting
|  >> > 7.10.2 out really matters to me”.*  Other things being equal, the
|  >> > longer we wait, the more fixes will be in.
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > But does anything stand in the way of pressing the button on the
|  HP
|  >> > build, so that you have a HP 7.10.2 ready to go?  You can always
|  >> > press the button again if/when further fixes go in.
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > Simon
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > *From:*ghc-devs [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces at haskell.org] *On Behalf
|  Of
|  >> > *Mark Lentczner
|  >> > *Sent:* 02 May 2015 01:57
|  >> > *To:* ghc-devs at haskell.org
|  >> > *Subject:* release timing
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > I'm wondering if ghc 7.10.2 has a rough time table yet?
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > This time 'round I'd like to do a HP 7.10.2 concurrent with GHC
|  7.10.2!
|  >> > Crazy, I know, and who knows if we can pull it off....
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > But I imagine it is about 3 or 4 week cycle for HP at this point
|  >> > (still)... so a few weeks' "heads up" would be good. Thoughts?
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> > - Mark
|  >> >
|  >> >
|  >> >
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