What promotes to (* :: BOX) ?

Iavor Diatchki iavor.diatchki at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 19:24:02 CEST 2013


Hi guys,

I'll have a go at implementing 'data kind'.  I've been a bit busy lately
but things are getting back to normal, and a colleague of mine is willing
to help too, so hopefully we can get it done.

-Iavor


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Simon Peyton-Jones <simonpj at microsoft.com>wrote:

>  For the record, I’m good with going ahead with “Solution 2” on ****
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> http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/GhcKinds/KindsWithoutData****
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> *From:* ghc-devs-bounces at haskell.org [mailto:ghc-devs-bounces at haskell.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Iavor Diatchki
> *Sent:* 02 April 2013 17:49
> *To:* Richard Eisenberg
> *Cc:* José Pedro Magalhães; ghc-devs
> *Subject:* Re: What promotes to (* :: BOX) ?****
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> I've been using an existential quantifier for this.  It****
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> looks weird (and I think we should fix this as discussed) but it is the
> current workaround:****
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> data MyKind = forall star. T star****
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> -- T :: * -> MyKind****
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> -Iavor****
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> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Richard Eisenberg <eir at cis.upenn.edu>
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> For more immediate satisfaction (i.e., before we get around to updating
> GHC in the manner suggested on the wiki page), you have to use a
> parameterized type and then specialize it to *:****
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> > data Prom2 a = Typic a****
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> Now, we have (Prom2 * :: BOX) with (Typic Int :: Prom2 *).****
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> Unfortunately, we have no kind synonyms, so you have to insert the *
> parameter every time you want to use the Prom2 kind. As Pedro suggests,
> this is a known weakness of the current system.****
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> Richard****
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> On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:55 AM, José Pedro Magalhães <jpm at cs.uu.nl> wrote:****
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> Hi Gabor,
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> See http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/GhcKinds/KindsWithoutData
> Comments on that discussion are welcome.
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> Cheers,
> Pedro****
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> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Gabor Greif <ggreif at gmail.com> wrote:****
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> Hi devs!
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> I guess I found a gap in the promotion mechanism:
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> > data Prom1 = Symic Symbol
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> gets promoted to to a kind (Prom1 :: BOX) with (Symic "AAA" :: Prom1).
> So far so good.
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> But how can I define by promotion (Prom2 :: BOX) with (Typic Int :: Prom2)
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> I'd like to write
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> > data Prom2 = Typic Type
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> but haven't found such a beast in TypeLits. So my question is
> basically, which type-level identifier promotes to (* :: BOX) when
> mentioned in a `data` definition?
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> I am thankful for any hints!
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> Cheers,
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>     Gabor
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