From mikolaj at well-typed.com  Fri Jun  3 09:07:47 2022
From: mikolaj at well-typed.com (Mikolaj Konarski)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:07:47 +0200
Subject: cabal 3.8 pre-released!
Message-ID: <CAHFo2urqso_EdWNKXf-U0Tawp2CPDXhcmAK4XGyhiLbZZoZK4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello! The first 3.8 series cabal release candidate is available. Install via

ghcup config add-release-channel \
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/haskell/ghcup-metadata/master/ghcup-prereleases-0.0.7.yaml;
ghcup install cabal 3.8.0.20220526

or manually from

https://downloads.haskell.org/cabal/cabal-install-3.8.1.0-rc1/.

We, the cabal team, are completely dependent on our invaluable contributors
and collaborators, thanks to whom this pre-release is possible.
Therefore, please test extensively and if anything critical is missing
or broken that you'd like to see fixed in 3.8.1.0-final, let us know
on the bug tracker. There is still a narrow window to change things
and the cabal team will try to guide you along and help you implement them.
The dynamic list of known grave bugs that could plausibly be solved
for 3.8 is at

https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22priority%3A+high+%3Afire%3A%22+milestone%3A%22Considered+for+3.8%22

At the time of writing none of the bugs on the list is blocking the final
3.8 release. Changelogs are at

https://github.com/haskell/cabal/blob/Cabal-v3.8.1.0-rc1/release-notes/Cabal-3.8.0.20220526.md
https://github.com/haskell/cabal/blob/cabal-install-v3.8.1.0-rc1/release-notes/cabal-install-3.8.0.20220526.md

The list of all authors of cabal is the git commit log. You are great.

Happy hacking,
Mikolaj

From mikolaj at well-typed.com  Fri Jun  3 09:27:08 2022
From: mikolaj at well-typed.com (Mikolaj Konarski)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:27:08 +0200
Subject: [Haskell-cafe] cabal 3.8 pre-released!
In-Reply-To: <837ef720-21f2-be1c-e5e5-709a5d7f684c@henning-thielemann.de>
References: <CAHFo2urqso_EdWNKXf-U0Tawp2CPDXhcmAK4XGyhiLbZZoZK4A@mail.gmail.com>
 <837ef720-21f2-be1c-e5e5-709a5d7f684c@henning-thielemann.de>
Message-ID: <CAHFo2uqDegOkgK9-P1nAzqkmNJR-Mm6Z3+v3O+qSS2Z3EGqYeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Henning,

> What about an upload as package candidate at Hackage?

Here you go (but note that package candidates are transient
so these are going to vanish at some point):

https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cabal-install-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cabal-install-solver-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Cabal-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Cabal-syntax-3.8.0.20220526/candidate

Let me know if they don't work.

Cheers,
Mikolaj

From carter.schonwald at gmail.com  Fri Jun  3 17:14:45 2022
From: carter.schonwald at gmail.com (Carter Schonwald)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 13:14:45 -0400
Subject: [Haskell-cafe] cabal 3.8 pre-released!
In-Reply-To: <CAHFo2uqDegOkgK9-P1nAzqkmNJR-Mm6Z3+v3O+qSS2Z3EGqYeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHFo2urqso_EdWNKXf-U0Tawp2CPDXhcmAK4XGyhiLbZZoZK4A@mail.gmail.com>
 <837ef720-21f2-be1c-e5e5-709a5d7f684c@henning-thielemann.de>
 <CAHFo2uqDegOkgK9-P1nAzqkmNJR-Mm6Z3+v3O+qSS2Z3EGqYeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHYVw0y6Q82i5zGskLsFaFvfyNmWbdQcpXynN7Si37_N+uX0hQ@mail.gmail.com>

This looks great!

Is the solver being factored out as its own package a new architecture
change ?

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 5:27 AM Mikolaj Konarski <mikolaj at well-typed.com>
wrote:

> Hi Henning,
>
> > What about an upload as package candidate at Hackage?
>
> Here you go (but note that package candidates are transient
> so these are going to vanish at some point):
>
> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cabal-install-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
>
> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cabal-install-solver-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Cabal-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/Cabal-syntax-3.8.0.20220526/candidate
>
> Let me know if they don't work.
>
> Cheers,
> Mikolaj
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From mikolaj at well-typed.com  Fri Jun  3 18:56:02 2022
From: mikolaj at well-typed.com (Mikolaj Konarski)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 20:56:02 +0200
Subject: [Haskell-cafe] cabal 3.8 pre-released!
In-Reply-To: <CAHYVw0y6Q82i5zGskLsFaFvfyNmWbdQcpXynN7Si37_N+uX0hQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHFo2urqso_EdWNKXf-U0Tawp2CPDXhcmAK4XGyhiLbZZoZK4A@mail.gmail.com>
 <837ef720-21f2-be1c-e5e5-709a5d7f684c@henning-thielemann.de>
 <CAHFo2uqDegOkgK9-P1nAzqkmNJR-Mm6Z3+v3O+qSS2Z3EGqYeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHYVw0y6Q82i5zGskLsFaFvfyNmWbdQcpXynN7Si37_N+uX0hQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHFo2uqcyTAAsbN9PAwM4cXTUtwVimVnvkSadwd_Ky9curnQzQ@mail.gmail.com>

> This looks great!

Thank you. :O)

> Is the solver being factored out as its own package a new architecture change ?

It's a new old change, many years in the brewing by generations
of cabal developers and now finally (to be) released. We are equally
proud of the separation of Cabal-syntax package, again a collaborative
effort, started with a mega-commit by Patrick Dougherty.

A warning though: the APIs of the new packages are not mature yet,
because not enough people use them and give feedback, because
they are not mature yet. So expect lots of breakage, guarded by major
version bumps. E.g., we re-export too much stuff from Cabal-syntax
to limit the breakage of Cabal, to give users a sporting chance
to transition to the split API before it's the only one available.

All the best,
Mikolaj

From spam at scientician.net  Sat Jun  4 08:30:18 2022
From: spam at scientician.net (Bardur Arantsson)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2022 10:30:18 +0200
Subject: [Haskell-cafe] cabal 3.8 pre-released!
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References: <CAHFo2urqso_EdWNKXf-U0Tawp2CPDXhcmAK4XGyhiLbZZoZK4A@mail.gmail.com>
 <837ef720-21f2-be1c-e5e5-709a5d7f684c@henning-thielemann.de>
 <CAHFo2uqDegOkgK9-P1nAzqkmNJR-Mm6Z3+v3O+qSS2Z3EGqYeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 03/06/2022 19.14, Carter Schonwald wrote:
> This looks great! 
> 
> Is the solver being factored out as its own package a new architecture
> change ? 
> 

For any people who like VCS speklunking it started around

       1d101e65fba107c1759bfe53df0f0833635a2c5f

I'm sure there was much pondering and hawwing and hemming before that
but... that commit is my only claim to fame in Cabal history. I gave up
trying to make things happen in Cabal a year or so later. There was
*soooo* much analysis paralysis that I just couldn't... :(

Happy to see the project being more active these days :). At least
that's what it looks like from the outside.

Cheers,


From carter.schonwald at gmail.com  Sun Jun  5 18:07:45 2022
From: carter.schonwald at gmail.com (Carter Schonwald)
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2022 14:07:45 -0400
Subject: [Haskell-cafe] cabal 3.8 pre-released!
In-Reply-To: <CAHFo2uqcyTAAsbN9PAwM4cXTUtwVimVnvkSadwd_Ky9curnQzQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHFo2urqso_EdWNKXf-U0Tawp2CPDXhcmAK4XGyhiLbZZoZK4A@mail.gmail.com>
 <837ef720-21f2-be1c-e5e5-709a5d7f684c@henning-thielemann.de>
 <CAHFo2uqDegOkgK9-P1nAzqkmNJR-Mm6Z3+v3O+qSS2Z3EGqYeQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHYVw0y6Q82i5zGskLsFaFvfyNmWbdQcpXynN7Si37_N+uX0hQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHFo2uqcyTAAsbN9PAwM4cXTUtwVimVnvkSadwd_Ky9curnQzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHYVw0yrLQwHctN-Z-Jx-QeD132H+a+sB5CWKKTEFBLte0hVXA@mail.gmail.com>

doing those two pieces is *amazing* and jailbreaks a lot of amazing
tooling/experiments being possible in userspace! props to all who were
involved

On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 2:56 PM Mikolaj Konarski <mikolaj at well-typed.com>
wrote:

> > This looks great!
>
> Thank you. :O)
>
> > Is the solver being factored out as its own package a new architecture
> change ?
>
> It's a new old change, many years in the brewing by generations
> of cabal developers and now finally (to be) released. We are equally
> proud of the separation of Cabal-syntax package, again a collaborative
> effort, started with a mega-commit by Patrick Dougherty.
>
> A warning though: the APIs of the new packages are not mature yet,
> because not enough people use them and give feedback, because
> they are not mature yet. So expect lots of breakage, guarded by major
> version bumps. E.g., we re-export too much stuff from Cabal-syntax
> to limit the breakage of Cabal, to give users a sporting chance
> to transition to the split API before it's the only one available.
>
> All the best,
> Mikolaj
>
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