[Haskell-beginners] trying to install libraries for Haskell School of Expression

[emacstheviking]

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On 2 March 2015 at 13:08, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, sorry, the perils of typing URLs out on your phone... :)
>
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>
>> PS: Did you mean stackage .ORG not .COM
>>
>>
>> On 2 March 2015 at 13:04, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Plunk! (penny drops)
>>> I get it...now that is truly the icing on the cabal-hell free cake!
>>> Thanks again Julian.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:48, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you go to www.stackage.com/lts/1.10, you'll find a hoogle search box.
>>>> It'll give you search results for everything in LTS 1.10.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What does that do for me within LTS confines? I know Hoogle, but I
>>>>> don't understand what you mean by "they run a hoogle for the exact
>>>>> version, with every library." ...I just want to understand so I can be as
>>>>> excited as everybody else right now! LOL :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:34, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It gets better: they run a hoogle for the exact version, with every
>>>>>> library. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Took a while to sink in....DEF trying this out tonight
>>>>>>> Looks AWESOME if it does what it says!
>>>>>>> Getting excited about Haskell again.
>>>>>>> THANKS!!!! Yoohoo :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 March 2015 at 12:10, Julian Birch <julian.birch at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a small note: if you're suffering from cabal hell, LTS Haskell
>>>>>>>> may help you. I described how to use it here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.colourcoding.net/blog/archive/2015/02/22/hello-world-web-application-in-haskell.aspx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope someone finds it useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 2, 2015, emacstheviking <sean at objitsu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed. I will "finish" with a mild semi-demi-rant too regarding
>>>>>>>>> the assumption by a lot of posters that we are all academics with access to
>>>>>>>>> papers on this and that. I am not and I don't. If you cite a paper, make
>>>>>>>>> sure it's available to Joe Public please!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As for only sticking to plain vanialla simple Haskell, yes, that
>>>>>>>>> works BUT there are some many great libraries that a real time
>>>>>>>>> savers...it's such a shame when they won't play well together!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, despite it all, tonight I will be hacking Haskell !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1 March 2015 at 19:27, DJ <jakep at arqux.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Yeah. I think there are a lot of us out there. I won't rant
>>>>>>>>>> (much) here, because I hope to get some help from time to time. Alienating
>>>>>>>>>> people is not a good way to get help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are many things I like about the language, but I have
>>>>>>>>>> always been perplexed by the haskell ecosystem in a couple of ways. However
>>>>>>>>>> good and/or interesting a language might be, it is not possible to do meat
>>>>>>>>>> and potatoes development unless there is a good supply of
>>>>>>>>>> packages/libraries.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My first problem was that I often just could not get stuff to
>>>>>>>>>> install. The second problem was documentation. I hope it has improved a
>>>>>>>>>> bit. I was always flabbergasted at the (apparent) belief that a few lines
>>>>>>>>>> of API documentation coughed out by haddock are enough. But that's all
>>>>>>>>>> there was in a lot of cases. That, and "refer to xxxx research paper" and
>>>>>>>>>> "figure it out from the types". Hah. Any math paper that consisted of just
>>>>>>>>>> the equations sorted in alphabetical order would not be well received, I
>>>>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I really admired that fact that Michael Snoyman wrote a book
>>>>>>>>>> about Yesod. For all I know he may not have kept the book up, but at least
>>>>>>>>>> he realized that people needed an explanation of how to use his software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, back to work. I am going to give haskell another try for
>>>>>>>>>> sure. It's just too tempting to give up on. If it doesn't work, the next
>>>>>>>>>> stop will be sml or ocaml.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - DJ -
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 15-03-01 09:56 AM, emacstheviking wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   I feel your pain...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Confession: I abandoned Haskell two years ago because of
>>>>>>>>>>> frustration with cabal and hackage. I decided to get back to the language
>>>>>>>>>>> today, and to start with Haskell School of Expression. I immediately run
>>>>>>>>>>> into the problem that the first thing I try to install with cabal does not
>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  It is the same reason I have stopped using it. It's a real
>>>>>>>>>> shame. Those with better education and understanding than mine should be
>>>>>>>>>> concerned that the uptake of the language is stunted by its package manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I love Haskell. I have taught myself (the beginnings at least)
>>>>>>>>>> of group theory just to better comprehend the mindset of monads. For that
>>>>>>>>>> alone I am glad I learned Haskell as it has rekindled my interest in maths!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any help. Please tell me things are not just as bad
>>>>>>>>>>> now as they were when I left ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  This mail seems to indicate to me that "cabal hell" is here
>>>>>>>>>> for some time to come...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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