[Haskell-beginners] Re: Re: testing and the culture of Haskell
daniel.is.fischer at web.de
Sat Jan 23 16:08:14 EST 2010
Am Samstag 23 Januar 2010 21:31:47 schrieb Adrian Adshead:
> Hi Alex,
> That does help, but raises a further question.
> If (>>=) :: m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b
> Then whenever the IO monad is entered it can not be escaped,
> so in the example you gave:-
> f :: IO a -> Int
> f _ = 10
> while f (putStrLn "foo") is a pure function evaluating to 10,
> neither the IO Action, nor the a (from 'IO a') can be used without
> using the (>>=) or (>>). Therefore since the parameter can not
> be used in the function f without entering the IO monad, your
> function would be equivalent to :-
> f :: Int
> f = 10
except with a restricted type.
> I have two questions to try and clarify my understanding.
> 1) Is it possible to have a function with an IO Action as an input
> parameter (and not just ignore the parameter) and have a non-IO
> return value?
> (ie is f :: IO a -> b possible without ignoring the IO a)
Excluding unsafePerformIO, only in a very weak sense.
ioseq :: IO a -> b -> b
ioseq ioa b = ioa `seq` b
doesn't quite ignore the parameter, but apart from that, I only see
rustyBallpointTracheotomy (Kydos to Brent Yorgey for that :).
> 2) Is it possible to have a function which evaluates any IO Action
> within the body and have a non-IO return value?
> (ie is f :: a -> b possible while evaluating any IO Action
> within the body.)
Assuming by evaluating you mean executing and not
(return 5 >> return 6) ~> IO (\s -> (s,6))
, no, that's not possible.
> My understanding of Haskell was that both of these situations
> would not be possible, and the return value would always be
> of the form IO b. (For these questions I am excluding use of
> Many thanks for your time.
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