[arch-haskell] Haskell's state in Arch & near future

[Peter Hercek]

Hi Vesa,

When doing all the changes could you assign all packages which depend on 
ghc to haskell group (or maybe some better group name) so that it is 
easy to postpone any haskell related update?
For more info see:
  http://www.haskell.org/pipermail/arch-haskell/2011-October/001722.html
The group needs to be added for both [extra], [community] and then 
[haskell] for it to make sense.

The other haskell repository is:
[haskell]
Server = http://andromeda.kiwilight.com/$repo/$arch
Magnus Therning maintains it. He is doing a great job. I have it before 
[community] in pacman.conf since it has gtk2hs with glade.

I personally do not mind if we would move quicker than haskell platform. 
Though it means additional work so it is up to the maintainers.

Dropping all haskell packages from aur is a good idea. Maybe we should 
leave there only one "dummy" package which would point haskell newbies 
to a description how to get additional haskell packages which a 
archlinux user would expect to be in aur.

Peter.

On 11/05/2011 01:44 PM, Vesa Kaihlavirta wrote:
> Hey,
> I'm writing to inform you about some action I'm planning to
> takeregarding our Haskell packages.
>
> Current=======
> The current status is this: we have in extra repo the
> "HaskellPlatform" package which depends on 24 haskell libraries plus
> ghc,cabal-install, alex and happy. Maintaining all these is
> relativelycumbersome (although it could be made a bit nicer by some
> cleverscripting) and in my opinion goes a bit against the simplicity
> clauseof our beloved distro.
> A bit worse is that our dependance on the haskell-platform means
> thatwe cannot upgrade ghc as soon as we could. The current
> platformdepends on ghc-7.0.3, and the platform's website informs
> helpfully:"Next release: July 2011". People have been wishing for
> ghc-7.2.1(released on 9 August 2011) for quite some time.
>
> Future======
> The actions I'm about to do are following:
>      - remove haskell-platform and all its libs from extra     - only
> keep ghc in extra    - alex, happy and cabal-install and the libs they
> need       (5-10) go to community
>
> Since a ghc upgrade usually calls for a rebuild of every library
> thathas been built on it, this and any future ghc rebuild will have
> aminimum of 2 week bug-free staging period to allow all
> packagemaintainers at least some time to rebuild everything that's
> needed.
>
> Haskell binary repo===================
> I've heard that there's a separate package repo for many
> haskellpackages. That seems like a good idea, especially if it's easy
> tolaunch a rebuild of everything, and if it works well enough. I'd
> liketo hear about that, if anyone maintaining it happens to be
> listening.
>
> AUR===
> My humble opinion is that we do not need to support any of thehaskell-
> packages in AUR in any significant way, as cabal-install doesa far
> better job there than our silly wrapper around it. If people wantto
> maintain them, fine.
>
>
>
> --vk
>
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