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    <p>There aren't.<br>
      <br>
      You are the last to edit that page:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Library_submissions&action=history">https://wiki.haskell.org/index.php?title=Library_submissions&action=history</a><br>
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      - Oleg<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7.7.2021 20.37, Carter Schonwald
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">It’s probably worth looking at the wiki edit
        history too.  </div>
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      <div dir="auto">I’m pretty sure some edits were done to the policy
        in the past 18 months without community feedback or discussion. </div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:33
            PM Oleg Grenrus <<a href="mailto:oleg.grenrus@iki.fi"
              moz-do-not-send="true">oleg.grenrus@iki.fi</a>> wrote:<br>
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              <p>Thanks for this reply. It made me reread <a
                  href="https://wiki.haskell.org/Library_submissions"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.haskell.org/Library_submissions</a>
                page.<br>
                In the Guide to proposers section it says:<br>
                <br>
                - All library proposals should start on the relevant
                issue tracker.<br>
                - At this point, the library maintainer is responsible
                for taking next steps.<br>
                - ... or decide that this is a controversial decision
                that must be discussed with the CLC.<br>
                <br>
                - If the CLC decides that the discussion must be
                discussed with the libraries@ mailing list, the original
                proposer may be asked to moderate the libraries@ mailing
                list discussion<br>
                <br>
                So do I understand right: it's up to the base-library
                maintainer to decide whether a change is controversial
                and must to be discussed with CLC, which in can elevate
                it to wider discussion or not.<br>
                <br>
                The page however lists Edward Kmett and Ryan Scott as
                base-maintainers, which I'm pretty sure is not right.<br>
                Who are the base maintainers?<br>
                <br>
                I'm sorry for my misunderstanding, it seems you are
                right Sandy, the issues should be discussed in the issue
                trackers first, and only elevated to libraries@ list if
                CLC decides it needs to!<br>
                That is much more reasonable then going to the
                libraries@ directly for every issue.</p>
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                - Oleg<br>
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              <div>On 7.7.2021 19.41, Sandy Maguire wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">At risk of being the messenger who gets
                  shot.... <br>
                  <br>
                  As an outsider, it seems very reasonable to me to file
                  a bug against the issue tracker for a project whose
                  code I think should be changed. For better or worse,
                  this is the way that 99% of software projects work.
                  Expecting everyone in the community to know that they
                  _shouldn't_ be filing bugs against the issue tracker
                  is a losing battle. I'm more hooked in than most, and
                  even I didn't know this.<br>
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                  <div>I can empathize with things not being done the
                    way you'd like to be, but the claim that things
                    happening on the GHC tracker are done "in private"
                    is silly. The gitlab tracker is 10x more accessible,
                    and the lack of community engagement on the mailing
                    lists speaks volumes.<br>
                    <br>
                    And besides, nobody wants to be on a mailing list
                    anyway. It's a terrible experience with weird
                    branching and no persistence, and while there are
                    archives, it's an extremely unpleasant thing to try
                    to spelunk through.<br>
                    <br>
                    Best,<br>
                    Sandy</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 7, 2021
                    at 8:52 AM Henning Thielemann <<a
                      href="mailto:lemming@henning-thielemann.de"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lemming@henning-thielemann.de</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
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                    On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, Oleg Grenrus wrote:<br>
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                    > For example<br>
                    ><br>
                    > - <a
                      href="https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/20044"
                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/20044</a>
                    ByteArray migration<br>
                    > from primitive to base<br>
                    > - <a
                      href="https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/20027"
                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/20027</a>
                    Changing Show String<br>
                    > behavior<br>
                    ><br>
                    > Why they are discussed "in private", I thought
                    libraries@ list is where<br>
                    > such changes should be discussed.<br>
                    <br>
                    I think so, too, and I missed them as well.<br>
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