<div dir="ltr">Perhaps it may be better to open an issue for this information to be added to the GHC user manual. Neither the word "barrier" nor the word "fence" show up in the context of reordering in the user manual. Having some kind of guarantee is extremely important for writing certain types of applications. I suspect that both atomically and all the MVar operations imply a full memory barrier, but I haven't been able this documented anywhere.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:38 PM Andrew Martin <<a href="mailto:andrew.thaddeus@gmail.com">andrew.thaddeus@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I've been poking around in old threads and in the GHC source, and I cannot find this documented anywhere. What are the guarantees that GHC provides around load/store reordering when it comes to using MVar or TVar+retry+atomically. For example:</div><div><br></div><div>import Data.Primitive</div><div>import Control.Concurrent.MVar</div><div>...</div><div>foo :: IO ()</div><div>foo = do</div><div> ...</div><div> writeByteArray myArr 13 (42 :: Word)</div><div> putMVar myMVar ()</div><div><br></div><div>If there is another thread that calls takeMVar followed by `readByteArray myArr 13`, is it guaranteed by GHC to see the 42 that's been written to the array. Same question applies for situations using STM facilities to accomplish blocking behavior that MVar gives us. Any documentation or pointers to places in GHC source where these barriers are guaranteed would be appreciated.<br></div><div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-3561294555708456542gmail_signature">-Andrew Thaddeus Martin</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">-Andrew Thaddeus Martin</div>