Generalize filterM to Applicative

Edward Kmett ekmett at gmail.com
Mon Dec 29 20:17:45 UTC 2014


I think this is the interpretation I think we're probably best left with.

I agree that names matter and that anachronistic labels confuse, but I
think it is the lesser of evils to widen the definition of the 'M' suffix
than it is to double up on almost all the names taken in the environment
and force the entire community to go through a positively gigantic
deprecation cycle.

-Edward

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Andreas Abel <andreas.abel at ifi.lmu.de>
wrote:

> Or you can widen the interpretation of suffix ...M as "effectful", which
> could be a monadic or applicative effect.
>
> On 29.12.2014 16:50, Kim-Ee Yeoh wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Edward Kmett <ekmett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ekmett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Is it "madness" to want to avoid namespace proliferation and
>>     maximize the usefulness of an existing combinator now that the
>>     constraints that forged it have changed to allow it to be slightly
>>     more permissive?
>>
>>
>> Madness is such strong language for this august list.
>>
>> May I speak on behalf of haskell newcomers for a time?
>>
>> Haskell places such an emphasis on uniformity and regularity. Functions
>> with names that end with M once meant they were monadic variants of
>> those that don't. That's no longer uniformly the case, because of the
>> FAM restructuring.
>>
>> The names of functions matter.
>>
>> Anachronistic labels confuse.
>>
>> Leaving filterM with a type signature of Applicative cannot be the
>> long-term solution.
>>
>> -- Kim-Ee
>>
>>
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