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<p>Good to know!</p>
<p>It's important to keep morale up and do what we can. I imagine
that'll be small details in my case, but there's meaningful
modernisation to be done even if major type system features are
still too difficult to standardise just yet.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/12/2018 21:23, Carter Schonwald
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<div dir="ltr">i'm slowly prepping some stuff for ghc and the
committee, though i can't say about the general action. I do
think some stuff i've got planned should make its way in, i cant
speak for other folks etc etc </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:54 AM Anthony Clayden
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<div dir="auto">On <i
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Nov 29 15:00:19 UTC 2018, Doug McIlroy wrote:</i></div>
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<div dir="auto">> <span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">></span><i style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> Frankly after you've filtered out all that, I'd be astonished if you</i><i style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> have anything left. It seems to be usual practice on Hackage to switch</i><i style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> on a swag of LANGUAGE pragmas even if this module isn't using them.</i></div>
<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir="auto">>><i style="font-family:-apple-system,HelveticaNeue"> (MPTCs, FlexibleInstances/Contexts in particular.)</i></div><div dir="auto">
> A depressing remark, which comes close to saying</div><div dir="auto">> there is no true Haskell.</div><div dir="auto">
</div><div dir="auto">? There wasn't a true Haskell in 1998. Already Hugs (in HugsMode) and GHC (with glasgow-extns) had MPTCs, FlexibleInstances/Contexts, FunDeps, UndecidableInstances. Overlapping instances was optional extra.</div><div dir="auto">
</div><div dir="auto">> It's one reason<span style="font-family:-apple-system,HelveticaNeue"> I hang mostly with Hugs.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,HelveticaNeue">
</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,HelveticaNeue">Interesting. Does that mean Hugs98? How on earth do you manage without at least some of the above?</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,HelveticaNeue">
</span></div><div dir="auto">> GHC pretty well repudiates Haskell 2010.</div><div dir="auto">
</div><div dir="auto">So does Hugs (in HugsMode): a large proportion of the extra features in H2010 were suggested by the Hugs teams; and Hugs 2006 was already far advanced beyond it.</div><div dir="auto">
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</div><div dir="auto">> May Haskell 2020 receive more respect!</div><div dir="auto">
</div><div dir="auto">I think you'll need to adjust your expectations: I doubt H2020 will happen. There was a glimmer of activity last month, but this list has resumed its moribund state. So I think we can put last month down to dead cat bounce. If H2020 does happen, HugsMode will still be well ahead of whatever gets added.</div><div dir="auto">
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