Well said, having coherent location to collect bits per topic so they don't get lost to mailing list thread mists of time is pretty important. I don't care too much as long as it's easy to comment on a topic / ticket and or propose edits. But probably something we should front load doing. <span></span><br><br>On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, Richard Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:eir@cis.upenn.edu">eir@cis.upenn.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There are many points I'd like to make in this discussion, but this one screams out the loudest:<br>
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This thread is spiraling a bit out of control. I've seen useful conversations around many different extensions in here, but these conversations are sometimes only tangentially related. I'd personally much rather see us decide on a tool/process first, and then we can have someplace to have The GADT Discussion and another place to have The Overloaded Discussion, etc. Otherwise, we risk losing good points in this thread, and someone will have to comb through all of this to extract these good points.<br>
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The discussion about what our goals are w.r.t. extensions -- whether to consider popularity, ease of specification, ease of implementation, making standard extensions, etc -- is, to me, more appropriate for this thread and this point in the process.<br>
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So, might I humbly request that we focus our collective creative energies on having a stable process before getting into nitty-gritty details about extensions?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Richard<br>
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On May 4, 2016, at 4:21 AM, Henrik Nilsson <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'Henrik.Nilsson@nottingham.ac.uk')">Henrik.Nilsson@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> > For example, much as I love GADTs and would be all for them being<br>
> > added in some future language report, I do not feel they should be<br>
> > added this time around. (Though I emphatically and wholeheartedly<br>
> > support adding GADTSyntax.)<br>
><br>
> In my opinion, GADTs is one of the most important extensions of the<br>
> Haskell type system over the past decade and definitely a sweet spot<br>
> in the design space in terms of power vs. complexity, at least from<br>
> a user perspective. I eagerly await Herbert's summary of of most used<br>
> extensions (which I think will be an extremely important input when<br>
> deciding how to go forward in general), but my definite impression is<br>
> that GADTs (and not just GADT syntax) are used a lot.<br>
><br>
> Point taken about the difficulty of specifying GADT type inference<br>
> declaratively. But as long as there at least is a way to standardise<br>
> inference that works, and from what Simon said there is, I do think<br>
> aiming to make GADTs an official part of Haskell 2020 should be a<br>
> priority.<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> /Henrik<br>
><br>
> --<br>
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