<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Finally, if anyone doubts some sort of scripted attack on the survey, is it really possible that over 200 people each want NPlusKPatterns, DatatypeContexts, or JavascriptFFI enabled by default!?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Even a bot should make _some_ sense!</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">—gershom</div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1542525869733211136" class="bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">On November 18, 2018 at 2:17:34 AM, Gershom B (<a href="mailto:gershomb@gmail.com">gershomb@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div></div><div>
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I also noticed a number of other bizarre statistical anomolies when
looking at the full results. I know this is a bit much to ask — but
if you could rerun the statistics filtering out people that did not
give demographic information (i.e. country of origin or education,
etc) I think the results will change drastically. By all
statistical logic, this should _not_ be the case, and points to a
serious problem.</div>
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In particular, this drops the results by a huge amount — only 1,200
or so remain. However, the remaining results tend to make a lot
more sense. For example — of the “no demographics” group, there are
713 users who claim to develop with notepad++ but all of these say
they develop on mac and linux, and none on windows — which is
impossible, as notepad++ is a windows program. Further if you drop
the “no demographics” group, then you find that almost everyone
uses at least ghc 8.0.2, while in the “no demographics” group,
a stunning number of people claim to be on 7.8.3. Even more
bizarrely, people claim to be using the 7.8 series while only
having used Haskell for less than one year. And people claim to
have used haskell for “one week to one month” and also to be
advanced and expert users!</div>
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The differences continue and defy all probability. Of the “no
demographics” group, almost everyone dislikes the new release
schedule. Of the “demographics” group there are answers that like
it, were not aware of it, or are indifferent, but almost nobody
dislikes it. There is naturally a difference in proportions of
cabal/stack and hackage/stackage responses as well.</div>
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There are a lot of other things I could point to as well. But,
bluntly put, I think that some disaffected party or parties wrote a
crude script and submitted over 3,000 fake responses. Luckily for
us, they were not very smart, and made some obvious errors, so in
this case we can weed out the bad responses (although, sadly,
losing at least a few real ones as well).</div>
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However, assuming this party isn’t entirely stupid, it
doesn’t bode well for future surveys as they may get at least
slightly less dumb in the future if they decide to keep it up
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—Gershom</div>
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<p class="airmail_on">On November 18, 2018 at 1:10:31 AM, Gershom B
(<a href="mailto:gershomb@gmail.com">gershomb@gmail.com</a>)
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<div dir="auto"><span>This is interesting, but I’m thoroughly
confused. Over 2500 people said they took last year’s survey, but
it only had roughly 1,300 respondants?</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:56 PM Taylor Fausak
<<a href="mailto:taylor@fausak.me">taylor@fausak.me</a>>
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<span>Hello! It took a little longer than I expected, but I am
nearly ready to announce the 2018 state of Haskell survey results.
Some community members have expressed interest in seeing the
announcement post before it's published. If you are one of those
people, you can see the results here: <a href="https://github.com/tfausak/tfausak.github.io/blob/7e4937e284a3068add9e9af6b585c8d0215ff360/_posts/2018-11-16-2018-state-of-haskell-survey-results.markdown" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/tfausak/tfausak.github.io/blob/7e4937e284a3068add9e9af6b585c8d0215ff360/_posts/2018-11-16-2018-state-of-haskell-survey-results.markdown</a><br>
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If you would like to suggest changes to the announcement post,
please respond to this email, send me an email directly, or reply
to this pull request on GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/tfausak/tfausak.github.io/pull/148" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/tfausak/tfausak.github.io/pull/148</a><br>
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I plan on publishing the results tomorrow. Once the results are
published, the post is by no means set in stone. I will happily
accept suggestions from anyone at any time.<br>
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Thank you!<br>
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