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<body><div>Ok, I updated the function that checks for bad responses, re-ran the script, and updated the announcement along with all the assets (charts, tables, and CSV). Hopefully it's the last time, as I can't justify spending much more time on this. <br></div>

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<div>On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Michael Snoyman wrote:<br></div>

<blockquote type="cite"><div>Just wanted to add in: good catch Gershom on identifying the problem, and thank you Taylor for working to remove them from the report.<br></div>

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<blockquote type="cite"><div>On 18 Nov 2018, at 21:17, Taylor Fausak <<a href="mailto:taylor@fausak.me">taylor@fausak.me</a>> wrote:<br></div>

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<div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;text-decoration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;">Great catch, Gershom! There are indeed about 300 responses that tick all the boxes except for disliking the new GHC release schedule. The main thing the attacker seemed to be interested in was over-representing Stack and Stackage. Also, bizarrely, Java.<span> </span><br></div>

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<div>The next survey would then need to be done differently from this one somehow. To improve the reliability, some authentication may be necessary.<br></div>

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<div>Maybe Stack, Cabal questions could be grouped as separate distinct surveys, conducted by their maintainers through own channels?<br></div>

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<div>Not sure how much value is in exact numbers of users of Stack or Cabal. Both groups are large enough. The maintainers of both groups are aware about usage stats.<br></div>

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<div>Is either library likely to be influenced by this survey?<br></div>

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