<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Nothing new here, non-maintainer uploads (NMUs) are an extreme and undesirable scenario in which Hackage Trustees risk to be caught in quasi-maintainership for indefinitely long. This is normally reserved for “boring" packages, which no volunteer fancies to maintain, but which are for some reason systemically important, so Trustees keep them afloat. If there is a willing to-be-maintainer for a non-mainstream package, it would be reckless to do an NMU, especially given that changes in question are non-trivial.<div><br></div><div>The rights of original maintainers are well protected, they can reclaim the package back unconditionally within a year, see the last paragraph of <a href="https://wiki.haskell.org/Taking_over_a_package">https://wiki.haskell.org/Taking_over_a_package</a></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Andrew<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 22 Mar 2023, at 01:16, Carter Schonwald <carter.schonwald@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">really? thats new, i thought we first assume the maintainer will return, and are careful about the takeover process and respecting the rights of maintainers. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:09 PM Andrew Lelechenko <<a href="mailto:andrew.lelechenko@gmail.com">andrew.lelechenko@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Brecht,<div><br></div><div>Please carry on with takeover; non-maintainer uploads are reserved for rare cases when there is no one willing to pick up maintainership. </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Andrew<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 21 Mar 2023, at 17:36, Carter Schonwald <<a href="mailto:carter.schonwald@gmail.com" target="_blank">carter.schonwald@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://wiki.haskell.org/Hackage_trustees" target="_blank">https://wiki.haskell.org/Hackage_trustees</a> last i was involved in this stuff, you open a ticket on the gh issue tracker and document what the patch set is and trustees/hackage admins can work with you to see about gettinga bug fix out<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:28 AM Brecht Serckx <<a href="mailto:professional@brechtserckx.be" target="_blank">professional@brechtserckx.be</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span>Hi Carter, can you link me to the process? I don't see anything about that on the <a href="https://wiki.haskell.org/Taking_over_a_package" title="wiki" target="_blank">wiki</a>.</span><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><span>Brecht</span><br></div>
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On Sunday, March 19th, 2023 at 3:41 AM, Carter Schonwald <<a href="mailto:carter.schonwald@gmail.com" target="_blank">carter.schonwald@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr">first start the process for a non-maintainer update, then after thats happened can the take over process start :) <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 5:43 PM Brecht Serckx <<a href="mailto:professional@brechtserckx.be" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">professional@brechtserckx.be</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span>Hi all,</span><div><br></div><div><span>I would like to take over the OpenSCAD[1] package, of which I believe the maintainer is no longer active.</span></div><div><span>The maintainer hasn't replied to my ticket[2] on the issue tracker or to an email to the listed email-address for over a year.</span></div><div><span>On my fork[3] I have implemented multiple bugfixes and features already, and I have some ideas for future improvements.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Best regards,</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>Brecht</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>[1] <a href="https://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenSCAD" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://hackage.haskell.org/package/OpenSCAD</a></span></div><div><span>[2] <a href="https://chiselapp.com/user/mwm/repository/OpenSCAD/tktview?name=73c74f477b" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://chiselapp.com/user/mwm/repository/OpenSCAD/tktview?name=73c74f477b</a></span></div><div><span>[3] <a href="https://github.com/BrechtSerckx/OpenSCAD" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/BrechtSerckx/OpenSCAD</a></span></div></div>
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