<div dir="ltr">Bugs, usually. I think there was one such in 8.2.1 and if so it may not have been completely fixed (trying to read around the edges of some dev discussion, since I'm kinda far from expert when it comes to ghc internals).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Neil Mayhew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neil_mayhew@users.sourceforge.net" target="_blank">neil_mayhew@users.sourceforge.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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      <p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important">On 2017-12-07 12:49
        AM, Jonas Scholl wrote:</p>
      <blockquote style="margin:1.2em 0px;border-left:4px solid rgb(221,221,221);padding:0px 1em;color:rgb(119,119,119);quotes:none">
        <p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important">Looking at the
          produced core of both versions reveals that in the profiled
          build a closure of type Regex is floated to top level. The
          non-profiled build doesn’t do this, thus it recompiles the
          regex for every iteration. This is most likely the source of
          the slowdown of the non-profiled build.</p>
      </blockquote>
      </span><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important">Thanks, Jonas. This
        does indeed seem to be the problem. I changed the code to use a
        compiled regex (with <code style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline">makeRegex</code>
        and <code style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline">match</code>
        instead of <code style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline">=~</code>)
        but in the non-profiling case the run-time doesn’t improve
        unless I float the compiled regex myself:</p>
      <pre style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;font-size:1em;line-height:1.2em;margin:1.2em 0px"><code class="m_5729575037828095479hljs m_5729575037828095479language-Haskell" style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline;white-space:pre-wrap;overflow:auto;border-radius:3px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.5em 0.7em;display:block!important;display:block;overflow-x:auto;padding:0.5em;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:rgb(248,248,248) none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><span class=""><span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-title" style="color:rgb(153,0,0);font-weight:bold">parseFilename</span> :: <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">String</span> -> <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">Either</span> <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">String</span> (<span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">String</span>, <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">String</span>)
</span><span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-title" style="color:rgb(153,0,0);font-weight:bold">parseFilename</span> fn = <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-keyword" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-weight:bold">case</span> (pattern `match` fn :: [[<span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">String</span>]]) <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-keyword" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-weight:bold">of</span><span class="">
    [[_, full, _, time]] -> <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">Right</span> $ (full, time)
    _ -> <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">Left</span> fn

</span><span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-title" style="color:rgb(153,0,0);font-weight:bold">pattern</span> :: <span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-type" style="color:rgb(68,85,136);font-weight:bold">Regex</span>
<span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-title" style="color:rgb(153,0,0);font-weight:bold">pattern</span> = makeRegex
    <span class=""><span class="m_5729575037828095479hljs-string" style="color:rgb(221,17,68)">"^\\./duplicity-(full|inc|new)<wbr>(-signatures)?\\.\
    \([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-<wbr>9][0-9][0-9]T[0-9][0-9][0-9][<wbr>0-9][0-9][0-9]Z)\\."</span>
</span></code></pre>
      <p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important">Then it runs 2-3x
        faster than the profiled code.</p>
      <p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important">The question
        remains, however: why doesn’t the ghc optimizer spot this fairly
        obvious loop-invariant in the non-profiled build when it does
        manage to spot it in the profiled one? In other words, when I
        make <code style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline">pattern</code>
        a local definition of <code style="font-size:0.95em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Deja Vu Sans Mono,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline">parseFilename</code>,
        why isn’t it treated as a CAF that’s evaluated only once
        (‘floated to the top level’)? Enabling profiling shouldn’t
        change the meaning of a program.</p>
      <p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important">I remember back in
        the day having to be careful with regexes in Python to make sure
        they were always precompiled outside of loops and functions, but
        one of the nice things about Haskell is that one can usually let
        the compiler take care of this. (Nowadays Python gets around
        this by caching compiled regexes, but I prefer Haskell’s
        statically-optimized approach.)</p>
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