<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-23 22:42 GMT+01:00 Ben Franksen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben.franksen@online.de" target="_blank">ben.franksen@online.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-">Am 23.01.2017 um 21:21 schrieb Sven Panne:<br></span><span class="gmail-">> [...] Something like this happened to me at least three times in my career, and<br>
> even if it's not direct refusal to accept such licenses, there are quite a<br>
> few companies (especially bigger ones) which require a *lenghty* process to<br>
> get SW with such licenses approved. This doesn't exactly encourage<br>
> engineers to take that route... [...]<br>
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</span>Ok, still anecdotal evidence.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, seriously: What did you expect? That somebody here comes up with numbers like: "X% of company lawyers prefer to take the safe (i.e. ban GPL) route because of personal reasons and don't care about the greater good of their company"? Interesting numbers, sure, but a bit hard to figure out, I guess...</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Yes, there are such companies/lawyers. Perhaps this is enough to justify caution. I would still like to see<br>
some numbers.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OK, how to get them? </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-">> There is no such thing as "the company", basically people are acting as<br>
> individuals (see above).<br>
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</span>Ah, well. So if the CEO thinks opportunities trump the risks he/she<br>
*could* just overrule whatever the lawyers say. [...]<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Same reasoning again: You basically get promoted by avoiding disaster (= law suit), not by being a hero who took some risks. Or at least take the risks and get quickly promoted away, before disaster happens. :-P So yes, they could overrule, but from my anecdotal evidence, this rarely happens. Would you like to be the one who said "I didn't care about what my lawyers said, and now we have this multi-million dollar law suit."?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">[...] Perhaps. I suspect that whatever corporate lawyers may say against GPL<br>
is simply irrational fear and stupid conservatism.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We could talk endlessly about this, and this might even be true, but it doesn't change the basic fact: Lawyers are there to avoid damage for the company, and so they act...</div></div></div></div>