<html><body><div>I think it's important to recognize that users have different tastes and needs.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Additionally, Gitter allows you to view the chat channel if you wish. It's also something that's publicly viewable and searchable from Gitter explore. It doesn't require the odd signup process that Slack has implemented. I can actually see my chat history for more than 2 days!</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>But beyond that if you like Slack and its community then more power to you. We can certainly have a difference of opinion and preferences.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>-Ben</div><div><br>On Dec 07, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Michael Walker <mike@barrucadu.co.uk> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content">The Haskell slack seems to be working well, so regardless of the<br>suitability of slack to open communities or not, I don't really see<br>the advantage of fragmenting the community even further. Why would<br>someone pick gitter over the two existing platforms that have<br>thousands of users? They would be intentionally limiting the help they<br>can get.<br><br>On 7 December 2016 at 17:07, Ben Spencer <ben.richard.spencer@me.com> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Hey Chris,</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">As I've mentioned Slack isn't a good choice for open communities. It's</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">really designed for businesses.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">On Dec 07, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Christopher Allen <cma@bitemyapp.com> wrote:</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">For that, there's <a href="http://fpchat.com/" data-mce-href="http://fpchat.com/">http://fpchat.com/</a> which is an established Slack</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">community. The #haskell channel alone has 1,208 people in it right</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">now.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Tomas Carnecky</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><tomas.carnecky@gmail.com> wrote:</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Usability matters. It's easier to tell people to open a browser window and</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">point them at a URL than tell them to download an IRC chat client and how to</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">connect to the server and...</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:41 PM William Yager <will.yager@gmail.com> wrote:</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">What are the advantages of this over the #haskell IRC on freenode? It's</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">very active, usually with over 1500 nicks at any given time.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">I generally prefer IRC to any of these hip web chat solutions because IRC</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">is client-agnostic and very rugged against companies folding or deciding</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">they don't want to host a project any more. Basically the only way to kill</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">an IRC channel is through social attrition, whereas any social value built</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">up in hosted chat services might disappear overnight.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">The one major advantage of hosted chats over IRC is that they work better</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">with mobile users, but I don't think that's very relevant for haskell dev.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" 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