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I think this idea is good and should not be taken lightly. I'm a
newcomer to the community and currently hold a grand total of *zero*
open source contributions. Obviously, I would like to change this
soon, but I think it is very *unfair* and makes absolutely no sense
to have the standard one person one vote rule for decisions
involving the libraries.<br>
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Let the code produced vote. Maybe weight them by downloads?<br>
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Dimitri<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/15 9:12 AM, Johan Tibell wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Perhaps we should weigh the +1 and -1s in this
thread with the number of lines of Haskell written by the voter?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Gershom
B <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gershomb@gmail.com" target="_blank">gershomb@gmail.com</a>></span>
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class="">On October 5, 2015 at 10:59:35 AM, Bryan
O'Sullivan (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bos@serpentine.com">bos@serpentine.com</a>)
wrote:<br>
> I would like to suggest that the bar for breaking all
existing libraries, books, papers,<br>
> and lecture notes should be very high; and that the
benefit associated with such a breaking<br>
> change should be correspondingly huge.<br>
><br>
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</span>My understanding of the argument here, which seems to
make sense to me, is that the AMP already introduced a
significant breaking change with regards to monads. Books
and lecture notes have already not caught up to this, by and
large. Hence, by introducing a further change, which
_completes_ the general AMP project, then by the time books
and lecture notes are all updated, they will be able to tell
a much nicer story than the current one?<br>
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As for libraries, it has been pointed out, I believe, that
without CPP one can write instances compatible with AMP, and
also with AMP + MRP. One can also write code, sans CPP,
compatible with pre- and post- AMP.<br>
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So the reason for choosing to not do MRP simultaneous with
AMP was precisely to allow a gradual migration path where,
sans CPP, people could write code compatible with the last
three versions of GHC, as the general criteria has been.<br>
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So without arguing the necessity or not, I just want to
weigh in with a technical opinion that if this goes through,
my _estimation_ is that there will be a smooth and
relatively painless migration period, the sky will not fall,
good teaching material will remain good, those libraries
that bitrot will tend to do so for a variety of reasons more
significant than this, etc.<br>
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It is totally reasonable to have a discussion on whether
this change is worth it at all. But let’s not overestimate
the cost of it just to further tip the scales :-)<br>
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—gershom<br>
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