[Haskell-cafe] Fwd: enhancing type classes with properties

Alberto G. Corona agocorona at gmail.com
Thu Oct 23 16:05:43 EDT 2008


It seems that some of the goals are not so hard. here I publised my
progress.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd5rm7qq_165rshp74gf&pli=1

I show how to define a Ring, such a  mathematical structure in Haskell, how
to instantiate the class Num as a Ring , how to (possibly in other moment of
space-time) instantiate a new class as Num and how to test the axioms for
the new class.

All of then is something like a sophisticated "assert" mechanism, but , I
think, much more flexible and elegant.

2008/10/22 Alberto G. Corona <agocorona at gmail.com>

> I guess that the namespace thing is not necesary. Maybe it can be done in
> template haskell. I never used TH however. it is a matter of inserting code
> here and there and rewrite rules somewhere at compile time.   It´s a nice
> project.  I´ll try.
>
>
> 2008/10/22 Mitchell, Neil <neil.mitchell.2 at credit-suisse.com>
>
>>  Hi Alberta,
>>
>> It's a lot of work, but I wish you luck :-)  Many of the underlying tools
>> exist, but there definately needs more integration.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Alberto G. Corona [mailto:agocorona at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 22 October 2008 4:23 pm
>> *To:* Mitchell, Neil
>> *Subject:* Re: [Haskell-cafe] Fwd: enhancing type classes with properties
>>
>>   Hi Neil,
>>
>> I see the contract type mechanism  and safety check techniques reflected
>> in the above paper are a good step, But I think that something more
>> general would be better. What I propose is to integrate directly in the
>> language some concepts and developments that are already well know  to
>> solve  some common needs that I thing can not be solved without this
>> integration:
>>
>> To make use of:
>>
>>    -Quickcheck style validation. By the way, Don Steward recommend to add
>> quckcheck rules close to the class definitions just for better
>> documentation
>>
>>    - Implicit class properties defined everywhere in the documentation but
>> impossible to reflect in the code (for example the famous monad rules:
>> return x >>= f == f x etc )
>>
>>  - The superb ghc rewrite rule mechanism (perhaps with enhancements)
>>
>>  - object style namespaces, depending on class names.
>>
>> To solve problems like
>>
>>  - code optimization
>>
>>  - code verification.  regression tests for free!!
>>
>>   - The need for safe overloading of methods and operators (making the
>> namespaces dependent not only on module name  but also in class names) . Why
>> I can not overload the  operator +  in the context of a DSL for
>> JavaScript  generation if my operator does what + does?
>>
>>  -  strict and meaningful rules for class instances.
>>  -  to make the rewrite rule mechanism visible to everyone
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/22 Mitchell, Neil <neil.mitchell.2 at credit-suisse.com>
>>
>>>  Hi Alberto,
>>>
>>> Take a look at ESC/Haskell and Sound Haskell, which provide mechanisms
>>> for doing some of the things you want. I don't think they integrate with
>>> type classes in the way you mention, but I think that is just a question of
>>> syntax.
>>>
>>> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~nx200/ <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/%7Enx200/>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
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>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* haskell-cafe-bounces at haskell.org [mailto:
>>> haskell-cafe-bounces at haskell.org] *On Behalf Of *Alberto G. Corona
>>> *Sent:* 22 October 2008 1:43 pm
>>> *To:* haskell-cafe at haskell.org
>>> *Subject:* [Haskell-cafe] Fwd: enhancing type classes with properties
>>>
>>>   I´m just thinking aloud, but, because incorporating deeper mathematics
>>> concepts has proven to be the best solution for better and more flexible
>>> programming languages with fewer errors, I wonder if raising the type
>>> classes incorporating axioms can solve additional problems.
>>>
>>> At first sight it does:
>>>
>>>
>>> class Abelian a  where
>>>     (+) :: a -> a -> a
>>>     property ((+))= a+b == b+a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this permits:
>>>    1- safer polimorphism:   I can safely reuse the operator + if the type
>>> and the property is obeyed. The lack of ability to redefine operators is a
>>> problem for DSLs that must use wreid symbols combinations with unknow
>>> meanings. To use common operators with fixed properties is very good. the
>>> same aplies for method names.
>>>
>>>    2- the compiler can use the axions as rewrite rules.
>>>
>>>   3- in debugging mode, it is possible to verify the axiom for each
>>> value a generated during execution. Thus, a generator  is not needed  like
>>> in quickcheck. The logic to quickcheck can be incorporated in the debugging
>>> executable.
>>>
>>> 3 guaranties  that 1 and 2 are safe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> a type class can express a relation between types,  but it is not
>>> possible to define relation between relations.
>>>
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