[GHC] #9163: Ptr should have a phantom role

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#9163: Ptr should have a phantom role
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        Reporter:  simonpj           |            Owner:
            Type:  bug               |           Status:  new
        Priority:  normal            |        Milestone:
       Component:  Compiler          |          Version:  7.8.2
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Operating System:  Unknown/Multiple  |     Architecture:  Unknown/Multiple
 Type of failure:  None/Unknown      |       Difficulty:  Unknown
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Comment (by simonpj):

 Austin says: I think Ptr should almost certainly be representational, as
 it is a case where the actual underlying value is the same, but what it
 points to is not (I'll ignore castPtr here for a second).

 This makes me think of something I talked about before with Andres - in
 general, phantom roles seem somewhat dangerous, and I kind of wonder if
 they should be inferred by default. Often you see some code along the
 lines of:
 {{{
 module A ( Bar, newBarInt ) where

 data Bar a = Bar Int

 newBarInt :: Int -> Bar Int
 }}}
 where A is exported to the client and the module boundary enforces some
 restrictions on 'Bar', like what types we can instantiate `Bar a` to (the
 example is dumb but bear with me).

 In the above example, I believe the `a` in `Bar a` would be inferred at
 phantom role.

 The question I have is: what legitimate case would there be for phantom
 roles like this? Such usage of phantom type parameters seems very common,
 but in almost *all* cases I can't think of a reason why I would ever want
 a user to be allowed to `coerce` away the type information, if the `a`
 parameter was phantom. It seems like in the above example, I would almost
 certainly want `a` to be representational instead.

 What other cases exist for legitimate phantom roles such as this where we
 want this inference? I wonder if instead we should require an explicit
 role annotation for phantoms in this case - not the other way around.

 `Ptr` is a similar story - by default it would maybe seem reasonable to be
 phantom, but that seems like an especially grievous error, given we don't
 want people to `poke` incorrect values in or something (again, ignoring
 castPtr for a second, but I think the general idea holds.)

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