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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There has been a broad further discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What we advertise is that, rather that leave a proposal “under committee review”, we will push it back to the author with an invitation to resubmit when the discussion has died down and they feel
ready to submit a proposal, revised in the light of the discussion. That’s different to reject… it means that there is an ongoing debate so it’s not a good time for the committee to make a decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee-bounces@haskell.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Iavor Diatchki<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 February 2021 16:47<br>
<b>To:</b> Joachim Breitner <mail@joachim-breitner.de><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Status<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On #381 I think the idea of visible quantification makes sense every now and then, but I don't like the concrete details of the proposal: the magic lifting of terms to types seems quite complicated, and using `type` as an explicit herald doesn't look nice.
So I don't think it's the right design, and therefore I suggest we reject the proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
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I am sure that others would disagree as apparently this is an essential part of dependent Haskell. I have not followed the large discussion that Richard created, as I am not particularly interested in the design being proposed, so perhaps someone else should
champion this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Aslo, I am not sure if I am actually on the committee, as I thought my term had expired? That might be more reason for someone else to pick it up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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-Iavor<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 2:32 AM Joachim Breitner <<a href="mailto:mail@joachim-breitner.de">mail@joachim-breitner.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Dear Committee,<br>
<br>
another status update, because why not.<br>
<br>
A small reminder: These mails have two sections, one that’s a delta<br>
since last status, but below is a summary of all proposals we have to<br>
act on. Please at least scroll through that on each status mail to see<br>
if you are listed, maybe you forgot something (or I made a mistake).<br>
<br>
So here’s the delta since last month.<br>
<br>
* GHC2021 defined! Yay!<br>
<br>
* Bylaws merged! Yay<br>
<br>
* Simon², Iavor, Richard and me had thus their terms expired.<br>
<br>
The Simons, as key members, wanted to continue and were<br>
voted back in.<br>
<br>
The others are now “expiring”, until the next nomination round<br>
concludes. Alejandro is going to run that process.<br>
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* we were asked to review these proposals:<br>
#390: Fine-grained pragmas, Shepherd: Vitaly<br>
<br>
* we have a recommendation from the shepherd about:<br>
#368: Warn on prefix/suffix operators (accept)<br>
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* we have sent the following proposals back to revision<br>
- none -<br>
<br>
* we decided about the following proposals<br>
#313: Delimited continuation primops (accept)<br>
#387: The Char kind (accept)<br>
#368: Warn on prefix/suffix operators (accept)<br>
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We currently have to act on the following 5 proposals, down by 2.<br>
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## Waiting for committee decision<br>
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#381: Visible 'forall' in types of terms, Shepherd: Iavor<br>
Recommendation was to reject, but discussion went into the more <br>
abstract “whither dependent Haskell”. But what does this mean<br>
for this proposal?<br>
Iavor, can you pick this up again?<br>
<br>
#369: Add sumToTag# primop, Shepherd: Eric<br>
Essentially accepted, waiting for feedback from the author on<br>
final tweaks. Eric, care to nudge the author, or just do it?<br>
<br>
#302: \of, Shepherd: Cale<br>
No new discussion yet. It seems there was some confusion, which<br>
was cleared up by Tom, and Cale said he’ll pick it up now again.<br>
<br>
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## Waiting for Shepherd action<br>
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#367: Clarify primops using unboxed sums, Shepherd: Simon Marlow<br>
Simon said he’d reject it on the Github PR. Still waiting<br>
for the discussion to start on the mailing list.<br>
<br>
#390: Fine-grained pragmas, Shepherd: Vitaly<br>
Still kinda new, but a recommendation would be good soon.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Joachim<br>
-- <br>
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