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I would be slightly sad to see ViewPatterns go in, for two reasons: (1) PatternSynonyms covers some of the use cases but by abstracting over data constructors, which doesn't require clients to adopt a non-idiomatic pattern matching style, and (2) for the rest
 of the use cases, IMO this design would be better: <a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.haskell.org%2Fghc%2Fghc%2F-%2Fwikis%2Fview-patterns-alternative&data=04%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7C642621d2c8cc476d91a908d8977e493f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C637425915937668628%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=n%2FfeyRdjkJ17TtX2Ck9dP9MBrx%2BRMZxtTXoVKOLdShA%3D&reserved=0">
https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/wikis/view-patterns-alternative</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I too much prefer this view-patterns-alternative rendering of view patterns.  I suppose that someone should write a GHC proposal.  But there would be some pain in switching from the existing view
 patterns to the new one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee-bounces@haskell.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Marlow<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 December 2020 11:26<br>
<b>To:</b> Joachim Breitner <mail@joachim-breitner.de><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ghc-steering-committee] #380 GHC2021: Current status<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I agree with Simon that we must have GADTs!<o:p></o:p></p>
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I would be slightly sad to see ViewPatterns go in, for two reasons: (1) PatternSynonyms covers some of the use cases but by abstracting over data constructors, which doesn't require clients to adopt a non-idiomatic pattern matching style, and (2) for the rest
 of the use cases, IMO this design would be better: <a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.haskell.org%2Fghc%2Fghc%2F-%2Fwikis%2Fview-patterns-alternative&data=04%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7C642621d2c8cc476d91a908d8977e493f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C1%7C637425915937668628%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=n%2FfeyRdjkJ17TtX2Ck9dP9MBrx%2BRMZxtTXoVKOLdShA%3D&reserved=0">
https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/wikis/view-patterns-alternative</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 09:31, Joachim Breitner <<a href="mailto:mail@joachim-breitner.de">mail@joachim-breitner.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Dear Committee,<br>
<br>
<br>
we have 9 votes in. Dear Cale and Eric, can we have your votes please?<br>
<br>
As always, the table<br>
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has the current data.<br>
<br>
We had the most discussion so far about:<br>
<br>
 * The innnocence of PostfixOperators<br>
 * The effect of UnicodeSyntax on error messages<br>
 * Whether InstanceSigs is a good design<br>
 * Whether OverloadedString is harmless enough.<br>
<br>
I see that three is less clear signal on odd extensions that are<br>
obsolete, on by default, implied by others etc. That’s probably fine<br>
and no need to worry; some of them will be resolved by virtue of being<br>
implied by others. We can also sanity-check the final result, and<br>
include all implied ones in the final design.<br>
<br>
So where do we stand?<br>
<br>
Applying the actual quota of ⅔ out of 11, i.e. 8 votes, these would go<br>
in no matter how Cale and Eric vote:<br>
<br>
   BangPatterns, BinaryLiterals, ConstraintKinds, DeriveDataTypeable,<br>
   DeriveFoldable, DeriveFunctor, DeriveGeneric, DeriveLift,<br>
   DeriveTraversable, EmptyCase, EmptyDataDecls, EmptyDataDeriving,<br>
   ExplicitForAll, FlexibleContexts, FlexibleInstances, GADTSyntax,<br>
   HexFloatLiterals, ImportQualifiedPost, KindSignatures,<br>
   MultiParamTypeClasses, NamedFieldPuns, NumericUnderscores,<br>
   StandaloneDeriving, ViewPatterns<br>
<br>
The following have 6 or 7 votes, i.e. they’d go in if we extrapolate<br>
from the current votes:<br>
<br>
   ConstrainedClassMethods, DerivingStrategies,<br>
   ExistentialQuantification, GeneralisedNewtypeDeriving, InstanceSigs,<br>
   NegativeLiterals, PostfixOperators, RankNTypes, RecordWildCards,<br>
   ScopedTypeVariables, TupleSections, TypeApplications, TypeFamilies,<br>
   TypeOperators, TypeSynonymInstances<br>
<br>
   These extensions are short one vote:<br>
<br>
   DataKinds, DerivingVia, GADTs, LambdaCase, PolyKinds<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
   So how sad would we all be? This is the sadness report for each<br>
   committee member, showing the symmetric difference between their ballot<br>
   and the (extrapolated) result.<br>
<br>
<br>
   alejandro<br>
   would miss:<br>
   DataKinds, DerivingVia, GADTs, LambdaCase, MonadFailDesugaring,<br>
   NamedWildCards, NoMonomorphismRestriction, NullaryTypeClasses,<br>
   NumDecimals, OverloadedLists, OverloadedStrings, PolyKinds,<br>
   StandaloneKindSignatures<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   RankNTypes<br>
<br>
   arnaud<br>
   would miss:<br>
   Arrows, ExplicitNamespaces, ForeignFunctionInterface,<br>
   FunctionalDependencies, GADTs, MonadFailDesugaring, MonoLocalBinds,<br>
   PartialTypeSignatures, StarIsType, TypeFamilyDependencies<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   ExistentialQuantification, ImportQualifiedPost, InstanceSigs,<br>
   NamedFieldPuns, RankNTypes, RecordWildCards, ScopedTypeVariables,<br>
   TupleSections, TypeSynonymInstances<br>
<br>
   iavor<br>
   would miss:<br>
   BlockArguments, MultiWayIf, NoMonomorphismRestriction,<br>
   NullaryTypeClasses, OverloadedStrings, ParallelListComp, RecursiveDo<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   ConstrainedClassMethods, ConstraintKinds, DeriveFoldable,<br>
   DeriveFunctor, DeriveTraversable, DerivingStrategies, EmptyCase,<br>
   GADTSyntax, GeneralisedNewtypeDeriving, InstanceSigs, KindSignatures,<br>
   NegativeLiterals, PostfixOperators, TupleSections, TypeApplications,<br>
   TypeFamilies, TypeOperators<br>
<br>
   joachim<br>
   would miss:<br>
   DataKinds, DerivingVia, ForeignFunctionInterface, GADTs, LambdaCase,<br>
   MonoLocalBinds, NamedWildCards, NondecreasingIndentation,<br>
   RoleAnnotations, StarIsType, UnicodeSyntax, UnliftedFFITypes,<br>
   UnliftedNewtypes<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   ConstrainedClassMethods, ScopedTypeVariables, TypeSynonymInstances<br>
<br>
   richard<br>
   would miss:<br>
   BlockArguments, DefaultSignatures, DerivingVia,<br>
   DisambiguateRecordFields, ExplicitNamespaces, LexicalNegation,<br>
   NamedWildCards, NumDecimals, ParallelListComp, PolyKinds,<br>
   RoleAnnotations, StandaloneKindSignatures, TemplateHaskellQuotes,<br>
   UnicodeSyntax, UnliftedNewtypes<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   NegativeLiterals, RecordWildCards, ScopedTypeVariables, TypeFamilies<br>
<br>
   simonm<br>
   would miss:<br>
   DataKinds, DefaultSignatures, ForeignFunctionInterface, GADTs,<br>
   LambdaCase, LiberalTypeSynonyms, MonoLocalBinds, MultiWayIf,<br>
   NoMonomorphismRestriction, NondecreasingIndentation, NumDecimals,<br>
   OverloadedStrings, PatternSynonyms, PolyKinds, UnicodeSyntax<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   DeriveLift, DerivingStrategies, NumericUnderscores, TypeApplications,<br>
   TypeOperators, ViewPatterns<br>
<br>
   spj<br>
   would miss:<br>
   MonoLocalBinds, NoMonomorphismRestriction, NullaryTypeClasses,<br>
   OverloadedLists, OverloadedStrings, ParallelListComp, PolyKinds,<br>
   RecursiveDo, RoleAnnotations, StandaloneKindSignatures, StarIsType<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   DerivingStrategies, GeneralisedNewtypeDeriving, NegativeLiterals,<br>
   RecordWildCards, TupleSections, TypeFamilies<br>
<br>
   tom<br>
   would miss:<br>
   BlockArguments, DataKinds, DefaultSignatures, DerivingVia,<br>
   DisambiguateRecordFields, DuplicateRecordFields, ExplicitNamespaces,<br>
   FunctionalDependencies, LambdaCase, LexicalNegation,<br>
   LiberalTypeSynonyms, MagicHash, MultiWayIf, NamedWildCards,<br>
   NullaryTypeClasses, NumDecimals, PackageImports, ParallelListComp,<br>
   PolyKinds, QuasiQuotes, RoleAnnotations, StandaloneKindSignatures,<br>
   TemplateHaskell, TemplateHaskellQuotes, TypeFamilyDependencies,<br>
   UnboxedSums, UnboxedTuples, UnicodeSyntax, UnliftedNewtypes<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   none!<br>
<br>
   vitaly<br>
   would miss:<br>
   DataKinds, DerivingVia, GADTs, LambdaCase, MonadFailDesugaring,<br>
   StarIsType<br>
   doesn’t want:<br>
   ConstrainedClassMethods, ExistentialQuantification, PostfixOperators<br>
<br>
<br>
   -- <br>
   Joachim Breitner<br>
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