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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally I think it’s helpful to have the proposal and rationale in the public discussion thread, because that gives non-committee members a chance to contribute. E.g. by supporting the recommendation or explaining why they think the
recommendation is wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> ghc-steering-committee <ghc-steering-committee-bounces@haskell.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Marlow<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 December 2019 10:13<br>
<b>To:</b> Joachim Breitner <mail@joachim-breitner.de><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ghc-steering-committee@haskell.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [ghc-steering-committee] Please review #265: Unlifted Datatypes, Shepherd: Simon Marlow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 10:06, Joachim Breitner <<a href="mailto:mail@joachim-breitner.de">mail@joachim-breitner.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Dear Committee,<br>
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this is your secretary speaking:<br>
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Unlifed Datatypes<br>
has been proposed by Sebastian Graf<br>
<a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fghc-proposals%2Fghc-proposals%2Fpull%2F265&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Cea3e37d7fc99474f2b3208d77710332f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637108783771075544&sdata=CTn29iF7iqGfn%2FwdIJRGz%2Baqim2rQk53sCKBPrSny8Q%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/pull/265</a><br>
<a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsgraf812%2Fghc-proposals%2Fblob%2Funlifted-data%2Fproposals%2F0000-unlifted-datatypes.rst&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Cea3e37d7fc99474f2b3208d77710332f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637108783771085539&sdata=4ytC%2BHNl38mGCLWUrssLwvH71DbBVrEOhC8TLhoS1jY%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://github.com/sgraf812/ghc-proposals/blob/unlifted-data/proposals/0000-unlifted-datatypes.rst</a><br>
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I propose Simon Marlow as the shepherd, as the expert on low-level stuff.<br>
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Please reach consensus as described in<br>
<a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fghc-proposals%2Fghc-proposals%23committee-process&data=02%7C01%7Csimonpj%40microsoft.com%7Cea3e37d7fc99474f2b3208d77710332f%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637108783771085539&sdata=uRwxWiNwdquNYPfsHl4AESwX8pvrGhl6tAsFQb9WFR8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals#committee-process</a><br>
I suggest you make a recommendation, in a new e-mail thread with the<br>
proposal number in the subject, about the decision, maybe point out<br>
debatable points, and assume that anyone who stays quiet agrees with<br>
you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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BTW, I just checked the proposal process documentation, and it says:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span> * Now the shepherd proposes to accept or reject the proposal. To do so, they<o:p></o:p></p>
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post their recommendation, with a rationale, on the GitHub discussion thread,<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
label the pull request as <code><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Pending committee review</span></code>,<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
re-title the proposal pull request, appending <code><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(under review)</span></code> at the end. (This enables easy email filtering.)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
drop a short mail to the mailing list informing the committee that discussion has started.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">which isn't exactly in line with the paragraph above. Shouldn't the first line be something like "post their recommendation, with a rationale, to the committee mailing list", and remove the final bullet?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p>
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Thanks,<br>
Joachim<br>
-- <br>
Joachim Breitner<br>
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