<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif;font-size:large">Filed <a href="https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/25915">https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/25915</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 2:11 PM Andreas Klebinger via ghc-devs <<a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>Looking at <a href="https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/25011" target="_blank">https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/25011</a> it
seems the desire was to fail with a proper error when LLVM was not
found at all.<br>
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To me failing when the llvm version is too new seems like a
unintended side effect of fixing the former. <br>
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I agree that simply warning and trying anway is the better
default. A ticket would be appreciated!<br>
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<div>Am 01/04/2025 um 19:05 schrieb George
Colpitts:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">I
was trying to find out if it works but I ran into the problem
I described. Yes, there were a few years where the latest
version didn't work but in many years it did. ghc used to give
a warning, this is an unsupported version but we'll try it
anyways. I would like to return to that. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new roman",serif;font-size:large">In
any case I believe ghc dev should test to see if it works and
if so use it in HEAD. If it doesn't work than we should file a
bug and fix it. In the past we got a few versions behind llvm.
I think we want to be on the latest version available for each
new release if possible. The earlier we look into this the
more chance we have to succeed at that.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 1:27 PM
Brandon Allbery <<a href="mailto:allbery.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">allbery.b@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Have you demonstrated that it works? IIRC the
current behavior is because some LLVM version (16, IIRC)
didn't work with GHC (threw errors from opt, I think).</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at
10:49 AM George Colpitts <<a href="mailto:george.colpitts@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.colpitts@gmail.com</a>>
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20 is out but unlike in earlier versions of ghc
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location info>: error:
[GHC-66599]</div>
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GHC was not configured with a
supported LLVM toolchain</div>
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Make sure you have installed LLVM
between [13 and 20) and reinstall
GHC to make -fllvm work</div>
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support llvm 13 upto 20 (non-inclusive) (found
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we move to llvm 20 on HEAD and can we revert to the
old behavior on ghc 9.12.3?</div>
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I file an ER?</div>
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