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<p>For context, the move from xhtml to lucid2 is very much in
progress, for both haddock and hpc. The necessity to avoid too
many third-party libraries is that in its current (and very
custom) setup, dependencies are git submodules in the GHC tree.
Which somewhat make sense because these dependencies have
sometimes to be adjusted when they use unstable internal APIs.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 10/07/2024 à 18:22, Artem Pelenitsyn
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<div>> I think they could be statically linked. But those
boot libraries don't<br>
> change much and generally<br>
> don't really cause us nor users pain so it seems like
there is little<br>
> reason to do so to me.</div>
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<div>There once was a sizeable patch to Haddock to switch from
xhtml to Lucid, </div>
<div>and it was rejected, seemingly, solely on the grounds that
Lucid can't be added to boot libraries [1].</div>
<div>Since then Lucid dropped the heavier part of its dependency
tree, so it's maybe not an issue anymore,</div>
<div>but my point is that there's more to this story than what
you mentioned: the need for keeping Haddock and HPC's</div>
<div>dependencies in the set of boot libraries may slow down
development of those tools. <br>
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<div>[1]: <a
href="https://github.com/haskell/haddock/pull/1598#issuecomment-1621765685"
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at
12:10 PM Andreas Klebinger via ghc-devs <<a
href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org" target="_blank"
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
think they could be statically linked. But those boot
libraries don't<br>
change much and generally<br>
don't really cause us nor users pain so it seems like there is
little<br>
reason to do so to me.<br>
<br>
> Surely the size of binaries can't be the only concern,
otherwise we'd<br>
use upx¹ on them when distributing them.<br>
<br>
I believe Ben experimented with executable compression tools
in the past<br>
with little success.<br>
But there were segfaults, executables being flagged by
antivirus and<br>
perhaps more issues I forgot<br>
which just made using it unrealistic at the time.<br>
<br>
But perhaps the tooling has matured in the meantime.<br>
<br>
Since our distributions are already compressed purely for
*distribution*<br>
purposes I would expect the gains there to be rather slim
anyway.<br>
<br>
So it's not really that we don't care about size, just that
these tools<br>
seemed not reliable enough for the benefits they offer in the
past.<br>
<br>
Am 10/07/2024 um 11:01 schrieb Hécate via ghc-devs:<br>
> Hi devs,<br>
><br>
> I had a chat earlier today with someone and found myself
unable to<br>
> explain the reason why GHC came with boot dependencies
like xhtml,<br>
> that are dependencies of Haddock and HPC.<br>
><br>
> Obviously, the binaries are (haskell-)dynamically linked
when<br>
> distributed, but what is the reason why haddock, hpc, etc
can't be<br>
> (haskell-)statically linked when distributed?<br>
><br>
> Surely the size of binaries can't be the only concern,
otherwise we'd<br>
> use upx¹ on them when distributing them.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> Hécate<br>
><br>
><br>
> 1: <a href="https://upx.github.io" rel="noreferrer"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://upx.github.io</a><br>
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