<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">OK. As I said earlier, the 'OtherCon []' unfoldings are unexpected to me. But if<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><ul><li>We can't reproduce it without a lot of effort</li><li>It's not important to you any more</li></ul><div>then let's just let it lie.</div><div><br></div><div>Simon<br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 08:51, Erdi, Gergo <<a href="mailto:Gergo.Erdi@sc.com">Gergo.Erdi@sc.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Unfortunately, I am unable to reproduce this from the command line using the GHC executable, so before I put in the effort of making a minimal example of using the GHC API to get this result, I would first like to know if this is even an interesting case, or
if there is some explanation for why one of these two would have an unfolding when the other doesn't, in certain cases.<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">So I can NOT reproduce it with just a GHC command line, only with my program (that uses GHC as a library). So it will require extra effort to get something
you or others can just run, hence my question: is there anything here that is worth pursuing at all? Or who cares, since I’m not using unfoldings anymore (I’ve switched over to storing IfaceExprs directly), and it works in GHC-the-program?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 6, 2022 3:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Erdi, Gergo <<a href="mailto:Gergo.Erdi@sc.com" target="_blank">Gergo.Erdi@sc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Gergo Érdi <<a href="mailto:gergo@erdi.hu" target="_blank">gergo@erdi.hu</a>>; GHC Devs <<a href="mailto:ghc-devs@haskell.org" target="_blank">ghc-devs@haskell.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:clash-language@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">clash-language@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [External] Re: Avoiding `OtherCon []` unfoldings, restoring definitions from unfoldings<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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nonEmptySubsequences [] = []<br>
nonEmptySubsequences (x:xs) = [x] : foldr f [] (nonEmptySubsequences xs)<br>
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f ys r = ys : (x:ys) : r<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">with HEAD, and -O. Unlike you, I see both unfoldings in the interface file. So clearly you and I are doing different things -- but I can't work out what is different without more precision
about what you are doing. (It would be harder if it only happens when you use GHC as a library, but I think you are seeing this behaviour in regular GHC.)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 03:05, Erdi, Gergo <<a href="mailto:Gergo.Erdi@sc.com" target="_blank">Gergo.Erdi@sc.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Just so this isn't prematurely all lost, I went back and looked for this example. With the following two definitions:<br>
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subsequences :: [a] -> [[a]]<br>
subsequences xs = [] : nonEmptySubsequences xs<br>
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nonEmptySubsequences :: [a] -> [[a]]<br>
nonEmptySubsequences [] = []<br>
nonEmptySubsequences (x:xs) = [x] : foldr f [] (nonEmptySubsequences xs)<br>
where f ys r = ys : (x : ys) : r<br>
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If I save the interface, load it back and look at the unfoldings, I see that `subsequences` has a useful unfolding:<br>
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subsequences Unf{Src=<vanilla>, TopLvl=True, Value=True,<br>
ConLike=True, WorkFree=True, Expandable=True,<br>
Guidance=IF_ARGS [0] 30 10}<br>
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Whereas `nonEmptySubsequenes` has a trivial one:<br>
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nonEmptySubsequences OtherCon []<br>
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The interface I save is created from the ModDetails returned by tidyProgram. ExposeAllUnfoldings is set.<br>
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Unfortunately, I am unable to reproduce this from the command line using the GHC executable, so before I put in the effort of making a minimal example of using the GHC API to get this result, I would first like to know if this is even an interesting case, or
if there is some explanation for why one of these two would have an unfolding when the other doesn't, in certain cases.
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Subject: [External] Re: Avoiding `OtherCon []` unfoldings, restoring definitions from unfoldings<br>
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I'm using Prep's output (mostly so that it's in ANF) in my full compilation pipeline, so ideally I would save Prep'd Core in my .hi-equivalents so that I don't have to rerun Prep on them every time I use them.<br>
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I'll get back to you with some concrete examples of `OtherCon []` vs.<br>
meaningful unfoldings next week.<br>
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Merging with my other question about shadowing problems with `toIface*`, in summary it seems that what I really should be doing, is compiling up to Tidy, taking the `CoreBinding`s from there and using `toIfaceBinding` on them to save the definitions.<br>
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